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nitrodann 09-18-2013 06:19 PM

Yeah I'm using 316L.

But this thread is about NO filler, NO colour.

Again, here is a really nice weld, but its 300% colour. Its still hot after its lost is gas coverage.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...70379511_n.jpg

Dann

nitrodann 09-18-2013 06:25 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...65916514_n.jpg

Here is a weld of mine with no colour, because of postflow, this has filler, but this wouldn't be achievable for me if this was longer than this because Id be welding, not stopping and postflowing.

Dann

nitrodann 09-18-2013 06:26 PM

Another one of mine, close but no cigar.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...74575072_n.jpg

Dann

shlammed 09-19-2013 11:38 AM

If you are trying to get it no color just hit it with a wire brush while its still hot.

The color just means your heating it up. No color without cleanup means your not really fusing much together in 99% of cases.

2manyhobyz 09-19-2013 11:38 PM

^ +1
shit looks good man

nitrodann 09-20-2013 12:33 AM

Yeah, I think it's a pipe dream to get perfect coilour every time with just technique and no post weld work.

By the way, Im looking at these 2 helmets, any input?

Lincoln Auto Darkening Welding Helmet Black Large Lens 4 Sensors | eBay

Miller Digital Elite Welding Helmets | eBay

I would love to just go and test some but I don't really have that option.

Dann

Erat 09-20-2013 04:04 AM

I haven't used that model Miller, but i have used plenty of Millers. I don't like their color. Never heard of Viking.

This is still cheaper.

Jackson Welding Helmet - Black TRUESIGHT Auto-Dark Lens 29371

I'm sure you can find it somewhere else. I also think someone may make it in solar, nexgen or someone... But i don't know what that's like.

nitrodann 09-20-2013 04:32 AM

What colour, the colour of the shade?

Dann

Erat 09-20-2013 04:56 AM

Yes, it's slightly an amber color almost. It's the most "true" color of the weld i've seen through a mask. I like it quiet a bit.

nitrodann 09-20-2013 05:06 AM

So hang on, which masks do you like and what colour is their shade?

Im a little lost now.

Dann

Erat 09-20-2013 06:01 AM

I like the one i bought. The only few i've used were the ones that were stocked at school. I don't like blue tint, i hate it, any type of overpowering color tint i don't like. I've tried all the blue, purple, even red. This one, seems to have the smallest amount of tint. It's still dark, but it's very clear. The tint i would say it has is almost amber.

nitrodann 09-20-2013 06:04 AM

And the one you bought... is the jackson one?

Dann

Leafy 09-20-2013 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1055447)
Yeah, I think it's a pipe dream to get perfect coilour every time with just technique and no post weld work.

By the way, Im looking at these 2 helmets, any input?

Lincoln Auto Darkening Welding Helmet Black Large Lens 4 Sensors | eBay

Miller Digital Elite Welding Helmets | eBay

I would love to just go and test some but I don't really have that option.

Dann

The lincoln is the one I have and in australia they only want $200 more than I paid for it. :bowrofl: THough the MSRP is closer to $250 USD.

nitrodann 09-20-2013 07:17 AM

Yeah, 200 dollars more, AND on ebay.

I told you right.

2k turbo build with MSPnP looks a little more impressive now huh :P

Dann

Leafy 09-20-2013 07:18 AM

Seriously, I feel like some shit you could buy american and have shipped for less money.

Erat 09-20-2013 07:28 AM

yeah

shlammed 09-20-2013 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1055447)
Yeah, I think it's a pipe dream to get perfect coilour every time with just technique and no post weld work.

By the way, Im looking at these 2 helmets, any input?

Lincoln Auto Darkening Welding Helmet Black Large Lens 4 Sensors | eBay

Miller Digital Elite Welding Helmets | eBay

I would love to just go and test some but I don't really have that option.

Dann

Thats the miller I have.

I love the X-mode. starts with the HF start on the welder vs having a light source. aka can sit there all day without lifting the visor and grind a little, then go back to welding. no buttons to press to go from grind to weld with it that way.

Leafy 09-20-2013 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 1055568)
Thats the miller I have.

I love the X-mode. starts with the HF start on the welder vs having a light source. aka can sit there all day without lifting the visor and grind a little, then go back to welding. no buttons to press to go from grind to weld with it that way.

We have an older version of those at school, without the x-mode. x-mode sounds awesome. I like the larger viewing area on the lincoln though. And I like the head to helmet interface on the lincoln better too, it stays put with less head pressure than the miller.

Erat 01-07-2014 09:15 PM

I've done it.

Setup was as followed - #15 cup, gas lens(DIY screen helped too), 3/16(use appropriate size) e3 tungsten, stuck the tungsten out almost 1 inch, preflow 3s, postflow 5s(more couldn't hurt). Butt welds and inside corner welds looked best.

I learned this after watching a welding tips and tricks video. After i was finished, i then went ahead and smashed my cup into the ground for no particular reason shattering it into a million pieces.... :(

tylerart 03-24-2014 02:17 PM

what cup are you using?


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