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Old 04-17-2008, 10:03 AM
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Default 84-85 RX7 GSL Differential

Better or worse than a torsen? Comments much appreciated.
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Is clutch type LSD. Is what I run. Is da bomb.


Different beast than the torsen, might require a rebuild. When any torque is applied to the driveshaft it locks.
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clutch type > torsen

period.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Is clutch type LSD. Is what I run. Is da bomb.


Different beast than the torsen, might require a rebuild. When any torque is applied to the driveshaft it locks.
What do you mean might require a rebuild? Can't I just swap in the pig, pinion, and ring gear (after figuring out how to set the backlash) in my miata differential housing?
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clutch type lsds are rebuildable- when they wear out, you replace the "friction" disks.
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ive had both a torsen and a clutch type diff in an f body and i like the clutch type better it just has a tighter feel.
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
clutch type lsds are rebuildable- when they wear out, you replace the "friction" disks.
Well, how many miles do you have to have on them usually before rebuild? How do you go about rebuilding? How much does it cost?
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Also, I just need the pig, right?
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from now on, refer to pig as the LSD. But yes, that's is all you would need.

You would bolt your ring gear onto it and drop it in, then adjust the backlash and reinstall.


they sometimes require rebuilds as the use multiple clutch plates to lock, so just as the clutch in the tranny wears, so can these....I was lucky with mine, clamps like the dickens, others not.
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But how many miles ballpark estimate until it wears out? If I did have to rebuild it, where would I get the plates and how much would they cost? What all is involved in replacing them?
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That is what I run and you can shim them a little tighter to get more lockup. It feels better than the Torsen in my other car that will allow the wheels to spin if you happen to get one rear off the ground in a high G situation.
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hackerchris - you've got to start doing some searching. All this (and most of the other stuff you ask) is readily available information.
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Not just searching, but you also don't need 3 threads when 1 would do.
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read this.. then reread it .. read it a thrid time..

http://members.aol.com/solomiata/MiataVLSD.html

then search Miata.net and here with the terms used on that page to answers your questions, if this still doesn't answer them then form a specific question and make a post.


1337hax0rChris please start doing some searching on your own before posting. You are lucky they haven't banned you. I have a feeling you aren't going to get many more posts like this without getting sent to the corner (with dunce cap) for a while.

the RX7 LSD questions have been asked elventybillion times and is all over this forum and miata.net.
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Originally Posted by MX5-4me
read this.. then reread it .. read it a thrid time..

http://members.aol.com/solomiata/MiataVLSD.html

then search Miata.net and here with the terms used on that page to answers your questions, if this still doesn't answer them then form a specific question and make a post.


1337hax0rChris please start doing some searching on your own before posting. You are lucky they haven't banned you. I have a feeling you aren't going to get many more posts like this without getting sent to the corner (with dunce cap) for a while.

the RX7 LSD questions have been asked elventybillion times and is all over this forum and miata.net.
So where on that does it say how much it costs for replacing the friction plates and how to do it? You find me a thread and I will gladly admit I am stupid. And the point of this thread was to get input from the members on the forums, HERE. Not miata.net. Definitely doesn't constitute banning.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:33 PM
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http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=200846

6 M020-27-258 -FRICTION PLATE $17.05 $102.30
2 M020-27-256 - WASHER $23.60
$47.20
AND
2 M020-27-257 - WASHER $23.60
$47.20
TOTAL $196.70



Now STFU and listen to someone giving you good advise. You think i'm joking about you getting banned then keep on asking stupid questions without doing any research.. i'm not saying this to be mean.. i'm trying to ******* help you..

Now slow your roll and do as your told newbie.
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Alright alright, chill out, my point was that this information was no where on THIS site, and I would rather learn from people on here because they do stuff right when they build a setup
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For some reason and i'm not certain why you don't seem to get the idea that this isn't the only website on the internet.

Google it up **********!


Please keep fighting, it always cracks me up when a newbie gets banned for being an asshat. I'm totally calm I only used expletives because you didn't seem to be grasping English without them.
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So, next time I want the opinion of miataturbo members, I am suppose to ask google? I understand I could have found prices from there. I found some on rx7club.com, but I wanted to know what the other people from here thought. Shopping around includes talking to people too. It wasn't like I asked "what is a clutch style lsd"? That would have been a noob question. I really don't see the entire problem you have with me for asking an opinion question, and asking how much the rebuild would cost in an attempt to get an idea of what a good price is.
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Originally Posted by hackerchris
So, next time I want the opinion of miataturbo members, I am suppose to ask google? I understand I could have found prices from there. I found some on rx7club.com, but I wanted to know what the other people from here thought. Shopping around includes talking to people too. It wasn't like I asked "what is a clutch style lsd"? That would have been a noob question. I really don't see the entire problem you have with me for asking an opinion question, and asking how much the rebuild would cost in an attempt to get an idea of what a good price is.
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