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Old 01-12-2012, 06:30 PM   #21
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Rick, in all seriousness:

No.

$4,500 for a desktop PC? Are you kidding me? This isn't 1978. I can't imagine spending more than $1k for a high-end desktop system, and that's $1k worth of depreciated US money, not the fancy high-value stuff y'all have up there with pictures of ducks and queens on it.

And financing it? I wouldn't finance the purchase of a depreciating asset which wasn't somehow involved in, say, running a business or otherwise paying for itself many times over, even at 0% APR.

(And yes, I'm fully aware of what business you're in. You could do that from a $250 Netbook.)


This thread is just wrong.


Is Scott really kicking your **** this badly in CoD?
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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That's a quality *** post right there Joe Perez.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:35 PM   #23
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my company paid like 5 grand for my desktop. I cant remember all the specs, but its 24gig of ram. windows 7 64 bit.

I still think its MASSIVE overkill and way overpriced. . . but thats what you get from buying it from DELL
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tl;dr
Never buy a pre made gaming pc. can build better for 1/4 the price. AMD and ATi is best.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:14 PM   #26
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so sad. told wife what you all be saying, hatering. then she asked what was wrong with current system... friggen trick question.

awww well, will just build a system via parts list I suppose. Spending 5k is nuts on a system, but i do use the system for work so ... lol

Scott and I are teammates Joe. We are equal awesome.

And no, i couldnt use a $250 desktop.. I actually need some power for photochopping and other stuff.


and how can quote NCIX system with no MB???
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Rule of thumb: never, never, never finance depreciating luxury consumer goods that you would only be able to purchase on borrowed money.
This should be tattooed on the forehead of everyone who has declared bankruptcy because of CC debt.
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Never buy a pre made gaming pc. can build better for 1/4 the price. AMD and ATi is best.
Intel is clearly superior over AMD right now, don't be a stupid fanboy. I love AMD but Intel is kicking their *** right now. ATi Vs. nVidia is a closer battle I suppose.
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Mid to high-end, Intel's been kicking AMD's *** for...years, admittantly.

On the other hand, on the low-end, I'm unable to think of a time in the past decade where AMD has not at least been able to hold their own.

(Although, since we're talking about gaming, I'm not certain why low-end is coming into it.)
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Intel is clearly superior over AMD right now, don't be a stupid fanboy. I love AMD but Intel is kicking their *** right now. ATi Vs. nVidia is a closer battle I suppose.
Price to performance amd is better. Not paying $500 for a chip that matches the specs of a $300 amd.
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Intel is clearly superior over AMD right now, don't be a stupid fanboy. I love AMD but Intel is kicking their *** right now. ATi Vs. nVidia is a closer battle I suppose.
Use to always go AMD/ATi. But I have to agree, seems right now Intel is favored.
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Use to always go AMD/ATi. But I have to agree, seems right now Intel is favored.
Yeah...me too. On the first desktop I built (5-6 years back now), AMD seemed much more desirable. I threw up an old 1.4ghz processor on Ebay and it got like 30 bids...at which point I found that people had ben overclocking them to 1.8-1.9ghz with watercooling at the time. I took it off, bought the watercooling accessories, and sure enough it lasted me a few more years.

I'm so far out of the loop that I don't know what's quality and reliable now. I just hear coworkers recommending Intel chips a lot.
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Yeah...me too. On the first desktop I built (5-6 years back now), AMD seemed much more desirable. I threw up an old 1.4ghz processor on Ebay and it got like 30 bids...at which point I found that people had ben overclocking them to 1.8-1.9ghz with watercooling at the time. I took it off, bought the watercooling accessories, and sure enough it lasted me a few more years.

I'm so far out of the loop that I don't know what's quality and reliable now. I just hear coworkers recommending Intel chips a lot.
Sounds like my first build. That was back when the Athlon XP 1800+ was all the rage. But yeah, since the Core 2 came out it's really been Intel's game on the performance side. Also used to be a strictly nVidia guy but I did recently buy my first ATI card and am so far satisfied. Price was the deciding factor.

Oh, and Rick, just so you know, a 16GB RAM, Core i7, GTX 580 rig can be built for under $1500. And then the question becomes not what is it capable of, but for nearly all intents and purposes, what isn't it capable of? Also, overclocking and CrossFireX/SLI.
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Rick, I view you as an above average person in terms of intellect, mostly b/c you created this wonderful place for me to learn about turbo witchcraft, read p0z stories, and crap on people/things/ideas that I do not like, and not so much b/c you buy 6.0 diesel Ford trucks. So I've got to ask, why do you want or need a $4,500 computer?
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Rick, I view you as an above average person in terms of intellect, mostly b/c you created this wonderful place for me to learn about turbo witchcraft, read p0z stories, and crap on people/things/ideas that I do not like, and not so much b/c you buy 6.0 diesel Ford trucks. So I've got to ask, why do you want or need a $4,500 computer?
I'm thinking Rick was trolling.

BTW, Rick, if you do go top-of-the-line cards, go with a single 7970 instead of a 580 or an SLI/Crossfire platform.
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Don't think he was trolling. Maybe on the 4k thing.

But srsly $1500 is about the max that should be spent on a desktop these days. That will get you right to the point of having a fully updated system that will last. Anything beyond that the price to performance ratio goes waaaay south.
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Good point, maybe he just priced a Alienware as high as he could and decided to make a troll thread...

I'll spend >$500 on a laptop when I get out of bootcamp, maybe get a refurbished one with a good graphics card and upgrade the hard drive and ram, then dual boot Win7 & Ubuntu
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Well, I think Rick was trolling on that part Gearhead, not so much on getting spec advise for a new PC.
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I just spent $345 out the door for a more than capable laptop for anything but hardcore gaming. It could probably handle SC2 at low graphic settings, which is all I would ever need. With tablets out now I see laptops dying out in the next few years. Desktops however, will be around forever I think.
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With tablets out now I see laptops dying out in the next few years.
I certainly hope not.

Tablets have their place, but even if they started shipping with "real" operating systems and capable processors, a touchscreen interface isn't the greatest thing in the universe if you're working in a big database app or drawing stuff in AutoCAD. And that's pretty much what I do with my laptop when I'm using it for work.

At best, maybe a dockable tablet such as the Asus transformer, but even that concept just adds weight and fragility for something that I don't care about in the least.

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Desktops however, will be around forever I think.
It's funny that you say this.

While I agree that there will always be a small market for desktops (eg: administrative workers who do lots of text-based computing) I am already seeing a shift away from desktop PCs in pretty much every other area.

At CBS Radio's newer facilities, for instance, virtually nobody has a desktop PC outside of the actual studio / newsroom environment. Everyone else gets laptops. And even at our office, our biggest heavy-hitter CAD guy gave up his desktop PC a couple of years ago for an uber-laptop along with a docking station. I never had a desktop PC the whole time I worked for Harris. Going all the way back to '99 when I started, I always had a laptop and a docking station.
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