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motox4ever1988 05-05-2007 12:24 AM

1.6 turbo noob questions
 
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Allright well i just joined here, and i currently own a 96 chevy s10. Ive been very interested in miatas for the last year or so, and test drove a 1992 1.6 completely stock last summer. Ive got a few questions. How quick are 1.6l's with the greddy TD04 turbo kit once you have the supporting mods for it? Because i know that in stock form they are pretty slow, but they handle great. So how much hp and ft lbs of torque do they put out with the greddy kit, and with the kit, what cars can they take from a roll and dig. And my last question, is 5 grand about the right price for a 91, 5 speed with a clean title, 161k miles, with a greddy tdo4 turbo kit put on 2 and a half months ago, and its a convertable, tein coilovers, 2.5 inch full cat back exhaust with a high flow cat . Whats yur thoughts? Thanks for all the help!

Braineack 05-05-2007 12:27 AM

Pretty good price....lots you can do...start reading, plenty, plenty of answers to your questions.

Mouglie 05-05-2007 12:30 AM

dude, if you buy it you better be ready for it, its an adiction!

neogenesis2004 05-05-2007 12:33 AM

no doubt.....I'm actually considering spending $3000 on the motor alone. WTF is wrong with me?

motox4ever1988 05-05-2007 12:42 AM

But the question is. is it gunna be something thats gunna put a smile on my face when i drive it? Cause ive driven srt4's and wrx's and loved them to death, and i figured something that weighs less, and is gunna make right about the same numbers as both the wrx and srt4 would be insane. am i right?

hustler 05-05-2007 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 109491)
no doubt.....I'm actually considering spending $3000 on the motor alone. WTF is wrong with me?

fuck you, I just spent $6000 and still need a 1.8 motor and a rear end. :vash:

hustler 05-05-2007 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by motox4ever1988 (Post 109492)
But the question is. is it gunna be something thats gunna put a smile on my face when i drive it? Cause ive driven srt4's and wrx's and loved them to death, and i figured something that weighs less, and is gunna make right about the same numbers as both the wrx and srt4 would be insane. am i right?

rwd


I've tracked with a bunch of srt-4's, and they are piss slow in comparison to a 96whp miata. WRX's are another class of car...but i think a turbo miata with decent suspension would be much, much more fun. I drove a 1.6 that made 154whp, and I had the giggles. Fuck, even my sister's msm was fun when it was stock.

Braineack 05-05-2007 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by motox4ever1988 (Post 109492)
But the question is. is it gunna be something thats gunna put a smile on my face when i drive it? Cause ive driven srt4's and wrx's and loved them to death, and i figured something that weighs less, and is gunna make right about the same numbers as both the wrx and srt4 would be insane. am i right?



those slow things?!

motox4ever1988 05-05-2007 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 109496)
those slow things?!

so are you saying a turbo'd miata can take wrx's and srt4s?

hustler 05-05-2007 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by motox4ever1988 (Post 109497)
so are you saying a turbo'd miata can take wrx's and srt4s?

a blown 2500lb NB miata on tein's with RA-1's hold's the street car lap record at Texas Motorsport Ranch (yes, even including times posted by instructors in gt3's and ferraris), and a 1:26 at Hallett (which is insanely fast...faster than any street z06 has ever posted there).

I've never driven an insane one, but apparently these cars are nuts.

the 1:2 lap:
http://video.google.com/url?docid=-2...vew3CE1nraJANg
that car has also turned a 1:26
It seems that about 250whp and good suspension makes these cars world class performers, with proper tuning of course.

neogenesis2004 05-05-2007 01:08 AM

it would take a bit more than a base greddy kit, but yes. Turboed miata is a very general term on this forum ;)

MX_Eva 05-05-2007 01:40 AM

I'd say certainly WRX's and it depends on the level of SRT-4 but if he's doing much more than driving in a strait line then yes.

There are guys on here taking down much more impressive things than the likes of those. But, it depends on the kind of money you have to spend.

samnavy 05-05-2007 01:46 AM

Whatever setup you're going to go with, be it Greddy, T25, T3, FM, Begi, OBX, EDT, DIY, etc... It's best to have a goal. What do you want this car to do? If your goal is to beat stock WRX's and SRT4's, do the math. A WRX: 3100lbs/185whp. An SRT4: 2900lbs/210whp. Both cars run 0-60 in high 5sec's and 1/4mile low 14's.

A 90-93 Miata w/PSandAC +turbo weighs about 2200lbs... with 200whp, the Miata will crush the WRX after the 60ft mark, and easily handle an SRT4, running a low 5sec 0-60 and high 13sec 1/4 mile.

About 10-12psi is needed to get you to 200whp.

Fill out your profile with your location, maybe there is somebody near you who will take you for a ride. To get a good idea of the used Miata Turbo market, see the classifieds lower on the main forum page or go to the Miata.net forum classifieds here: http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/isc/cla...3c1a7778e0e2bd

There are always a few turbo'd cars for sale. Assuming that Miata you posted above is in awesome shape, it's worth about $2500-$3000 stock. If you count the aftermarket stuff at roughly full price, $1200 the turbo, $300 for the exhaust, and $400 Teins... In the end it's worth what you'll pay for it. Do your homework and be patient. $1000 will go a long way with Miatas. In fact, next week it will get you a full standalone w/wbo2 and MAF delete.

hustler 05-05-2007 07:43 AM

there's a great 1.6 bell s3 for sale in houston. I'd buy that car if I were in the market for a car.

Braineack 05-05-2007 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by motox4ever1988 (Post 109497)
so are you saying a turbo'd miata can take wrx's and srt4s?

yeah. just need around 180-200rwhp. not hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP0ASQ3rfM

this was at 170rwhp (i have the dyno from the day before to prove it)


on the street I can take STi's from a roll....WRXs are nothing (well most of them...there's always exceptions)

shifttosixth 05-05-2007 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 109570)
yeah. just need around 180-200rwhp. not hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP0ASQ3rfM

this was at 170rwhp (i have the dyno from the day before to prove it)


on the street I can take STi's from a roll....WRXs are nothing (well most of them...there's always exceptions)



LOL,nice


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