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gospeed81 04-06-2010 07:41 AM

Turbo
Volumetric Efficiency
Displacement
Restrictions (IM, exhaust, TB, piping, air filter)

In essence it all boils down to mass flow rate (lb/min).

PSI is just a relative form of pressure ratio, which is only part of the equation.

I'm currently running at 12psi...which I'll admit is fun, but not nearly as much fun as FRTfun is having. That pressure ratio at redline on a 1.6L with my little peashooter is at the far edge of the efficiency island, over the 60% line. This yields a 1.4 DENSITY RATIO which is a much better determinant of power.

FRT has more displacement, and a turbo which flows more and is more efficient where we are operating...much more efficient. If you want to start a "12psi Club" I'd be happy to join and feel like I'm awesome...but if it were a "200whp+ Club" I'm afraid I'd be excluded, like I was through most of junior high.

Doppelgänger 04-06-2010 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 551214)
12 > 8. That is all that matters.

8>12 if you're running 8psi on a GT30 and 12psi on a MSM IHI turbo :slap:

FRT_Fun 04-06-2010 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 551234)
8>12 if you're running 8psi on a GT30 and 12psi on a MSM IHI turbo :slap:

12>8 on MY car. Which, again, is what matters to ME. :D

Sparetire 04-06-2010 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 551228)
turbo
volumetric efficiency
displacement
restrictions (im, exhaust, tb, piping, air filter)

in essence it all boils down to mass flow rate (lb/min).

Psi is just a relative form of pressure ratio, which is only part of the equation.

I'm currently running at 12psi...which i'll admit is fun, but not nearly as much fun as frtfun is having. That pressure ratio at redline on a 1.6l with my little peashooter is at the far edge of the efficiency island, over the 60% line. This yields a 1.4 density ratio which is a much better determinant of power.

Frt has more displacement, and a turbo which flows more and is more efficient where we are operating...much more efficient. If you want to start a "12psi club" i'd be happy to join and feel like i'm awesome...but if it were a "200whp+ club" i'm afraid i'd be excluded, like i was through most of junior high.



+50

IcantDo55 04-06-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by caideN (Post 551200)
what's psi?


http://www.petsit.com/

WonTon 04-06-2010 12:53 PM

haha ^^^

BoostedR 04-06-2010 01:39 PM

.8 bar?

gospeed81 04-06-2010 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by BoostedR (Post 551425)
.8 bar?

eight and an eighth bar

johnmatt 04-06-2010 05:14 PM

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I didn't quite make it to the 12psi club last time around
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stranges12712 04-06-2010 07:57 PM

Tryin for 30psi this summer :skid:

Cspence 04-06-2010 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by stranges12712 (Post 551626)
Tryin for 30psi this summer :skid:

And your givin me a ride!!

miataspeed2005 04-06-2010 11:00 PM

Me first :)

90GTK450 04-07-2010 12:59 AM

224 kpa

dgmorr 04-07-2010 02:18 AM

Will be there mid next week once I install the clutch....I hope :)

Tw34k 04-07-2010 02:45 AM

Started and broke in the new buid today, loved 7 psi and is begging me to join this club after i fix the pass side wheel bearing.

stranges12712 04-07-2010 07:31 AM

No worries, you will get a ride, I just have to make it out to one of these meets when the cars finished.

caideN 04-07-2010 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 551394)

lol:laugh:

levnubhin 04-07-2010 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by stranges12712 (Post 551626)
Tryin for 30psi this summer :skid:

I might try and join you.
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18psi 04-07-2010 11:47 AM

DAMN you guys are nuts

only cars I know of running that kind of boost (and more) are dsm's, evo's, and supras

levnubhin 04-07-2010 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 551960)
DAMN you guys are nuts

only cars I know of running that kind of boost (and more) are dsm's, evo's, and supras

Yeah, and twice the horsepower.
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