Autokonexion Vented hood - NO GILLS
 

http://clubroadster.net/forum/viewto...=179470#179470

I know we aren't a big fan of the guy, but he said if he gets 5 people to pre-pay he'll do the hoods without gills. If I can cough up $450 for this, I will be #2 on the list.

Anyone wanna buy a stock PZ black hood in great condition? :D

jesus christ. ok guys, here's the deal. this isn't jdm enough, so i need money downz before i do this. keep it on the dl, i dont want to sell too many of these becuase then id be a sell out.

Their replacement trunk looks kinda cool, fastback hardtop should look different too. I'd like the hood without the gills.

I can't wait to see how the hardtop extension turns out.

I'd rock one at that price without the gills... but I have to wait. Too many other priorities right now. Besides... I had to cut a large amount of my stock hood bracing to make room for my hotside piping. In order to run that hood I'll too a BEGi re-route (planned) and new hotside piping with the turbo clocked down instead of up.

The hood is silly looking. The trunk is very interesting though, as is the fastback thing.

DEI is silly looking too but look how that turned out.

i agree with newbsauce about the hood, trunk, and fastback.

I'm in the same boat as you.In order for that hood to fit,I would either need to re-clock my turbo and run new piping(more money) or I would need to trim the hood at the extraction vent,also I would need to get rid of my cold air box(gotta go no matter which route I go) cause the extraction vent would not clear it.

450? thats high, i got my erebuni CF hood with no silly gilly vents for 300 shipped, i think 450 is a bit too much if he is using fiberglass IMO, but to each his own

My Erebuni, which did require trimming was like 150 or something crazy like that, and my 60 for hood pins (optional) . Cutting a spare hood is even cheaper.. 450 = the fail.

1. I've heard the Erebuni hoods fit like total shit
2. His hoods look like they could be OEM
3. This is the only vented hood whose design I think looks even halfway decent
4. It's hella JDM.

My erebuni fit good, had to trim the vent though because i have the 1.8, i heared they fit the 1.6's good.
anyone tried the autokonexion on a 1.8 cause it looks just like the erebuni one only with gills
i just dont see why he is asking for 450 when the erebuni hoods were cheaper and it looks the same (sans gills) which is what everyone has been saying, no?
here is mine
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stock hood chopemupz +1

where to get the ebruni?

i just talked to them, they are going out of business and only sell stuff they show on the site, no miata hood though
so autokonexion probably bought their mold and is now making the hoods himself and selling as his design only with gills, wow

Just to relay information because I've been keeping up with the hood project. He actually took a carbon fiber extraction hood that was messed up when the car was wrecked, cut the extraction part out, molded it to the stock hood, and then molded the gills in. Then he had the hoods molded from that. But alot of people have been asking for the hood without the gills.
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The price is actually $320 for fiberglass and $420 for CF, plus shipping, which is where the price can go up.

The fit is actually really good according to a couple of people that bought one and relayed feedback. The main extraction vent is far enough back to fit thick radiators, but far enough forward to cover the front of the engine, unlike 1.8s using an Erebuni hood.

lol

Quite an accusation, considering that he has several photos of the main vent molded into a stock hood, and he's also said that the main delay in making the non-gilled hood will be forming a new mold without the gills.

:td:

He didn't accuse anyone or claim any as fact. He supposed a situation based on evidence before him. Stop being a fucking pussy

That's an accusation if I ever saw one. Loki, your reading comprehension skills are on par with Magna's typing skills.

i agree on all four points.

Apparently you don't know the definition of accusation... :slap:

Get a dictionary and stop being so fucking ignorant.

I will have the NB model on there no gills style as soon as its out.

I like the gills and have one on order.

What was your shipping quote? And where to?

So is the consensus that no gills is the way to go? I am interested in maximum extraction for the track. Would the effects of reversion through the gills be that significant? I do spend alot of time in city traffic, and I'd hate to have the kind of heat damage Autokonexion was trying to mitigate with the gills.

Would adhesive reflective heat shielding applied to the underside of the hood be enough to protect a hood without gills?

Originally Posted by whaaamx5
so autokonexion probably bought their mold and is now making the hoods himself and selling as his design only with gills, wow

i thought the words PROBABLY and WOW would have given away the sarcasm chief, but i guess not...
but in a way i have to say that i wasnt far off, according to rotornut, and the thread on crnet, he did use an existing (most likely erebuni) hood to make his hood
so accusation or not, who gives a fuck, i give the guy props for even trying to persuade us to buy his shit
i have no doubt that his quality can be higher than erebunis, they made their shit years ago, he is making it just now, so im sure he can learn from their mistakes, and their original design, which he DID!!! so its no longer an accusation, its a fact, it is erebunis design, literally copied, but who cares right...the consumer is the one who wins when more product is introduced into the marlet, and we are the consumer

My hood arrived in the mail last night. Looks good so far. I got the one with the gills and also got the trunk spoiler at the old GB price just because I asked. Cost me about $520 for both including shipping. Not bad for the both of them.

Dude, I want your help to do a simple tuft test on the gills!

Mount the hood and tie several pieces of yarn or kite string on the gill slits and cruise around at different speeds. Note when the gills start make the shift from air flow out (extraction) to air flow in (reversion).

Don't just do it for me, do it the good of the whole miata world! :)

hell i have a magnehelic gauge he can use for testing.

I missed the sarcasm there. No worries, bud. I don't doubt that he used the Erebuni mold, or at least something very similar, but the fact that his shit fits and the Erebuni shit doesn't is :bigtu: to him.

yeah agreed, looking closer at the pics, looks like he used the erebuni vent and moved it a little further forward to clear the motor on the 1.8's which is something erebuni didnt do
when i was ordering my hood (like 4 years ago) they said it was for all NA's, once i got it and installed it and it didnt fit i called them to see what was going on since the hood didnt close, they asked me if i had the 1.8 and once i told them yes they were like, 'og, you gotta trim the hood a little' a little my ass, lol
so they were aware of the problem at least 4 years ago and did nothing to fix it so autokonexion does get the thumbs up from me

I just went to his website. There is a gallery with pics of his cars but no picks or links in the product section. the rest of the site seems like effort was put into it, so what gives?

wtf is wrong with all the people making websites these days. finish the fucking websites people

Holy crap! Another OP KS Person?! Sweet...


+1 on the yarn or string....

total cost was $442 to minneapolis with expedited shipping.

For carbon or fiberglass?

Fiberglass. And don't respond if yours was cheaper, cuz that is what I paid an I don't want to be pissed.

Having been in IT for 25 years and leading projects for the last 15, I would word it differently (because of assholes execs) but your comment is spot on.

A website is like your resume, it is the first view into what you are, make it goddamn good.

LOL, I wasn't even aware that Andrew posted this thread over here and Ben gets his panties yanked up his crack :vash: and says "Don't be a retarded fucking schill"

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I've been called a lot of things, but never a Euro-fish :cool:

Whatever. Rules of the forum:
1--don't double post the same topic because you can't use a search button
2--don't piss the mods off, or it's a 1 way trip to banville, no return ticket.
3--if by chance you pissed a mod off, and by his good graces he did not ban you, have a little humility instead of further pissing the mod off with bandwidth wasting drivel.

what a schill, lol

Will do. I will be installing the hood after class tomorrow afternoon and I will post results afterward. Scott if i could use your Magnehelic that would be useful. Im hoping for some good results!

i can grab it this weekend and let you borrow it. I'm already borrow it myself because i wanted to test doing some splitter mods.... give me a ring tomorrow i wanna see the hood....and steal your car.

schweet! looking forward to your findings!

Due to an unforeseen amount of Gods dandruff i must delay the experiment until this weekend

Pussy. I drove 35 miles in the snow yesterday :bigtu:
Tripped me out too. That's the first time I drove in a heavy snow fall.

Blah, driving is no biggie. Esp down south! Standing outside when its 20 and snowing trying to align a hood perfectly is another story...

"heavy snow fall" :rofl: You need to travel more

heavy for here

It better be. That's part of the reason I moved here ;)

yeah it is. this weather is a bit of an oddity. we usually get one snowfall, about 1/2", once every other year.

Here it is in all its glory and the spoiler too...

Shit.. Come visit Kansas City mang. Three weeks ago it was 72 degrees here, but in St Joe (45ish minutes north) it was Snowing. This fucking shit hole can't make up its god damn mind if it wants to snow or turn into a summer day. Hell a week ago Springfield Missouri had a few god damn tornados!

:vash::magna:

Did the weather cooperate this weekend? :x:

Thanks for posting pics. The gills definitely make the hood look more aggressive.

Ok, it's been week. Any updates?

Ok here are the results:

I preformed some simple tests today to see if the gills work positively or negativly.

Weather conditions:
Partly cloudy at 37*F,
45% humidity
Pressure: 30.12 in / 1019.9 hPa (Falling)

I attached a piece of ribbon to each of the gills as well as the vented part after the radiator. The pieces of ribbon were 2" long on the right and 4"long on the left. At Idle the ribbons were limp as would be expected until the radiator fans came on. At 5-10 MPH the ribbons on the passenger side would be pushing out while the gills on the turbo side would suck in for just a brief moment. Im not sure as to why this was but I suspect it has to do with the intake sucking in air. From then on the ribbons on both side of the hood were pushed outward until 60 mph which was the fastest I was willing to go while staring at my hood. I will post a video of the findings tomorrow as well as pictures.

Some of the factors that might have effected the results were:
TSI's
Duel fan mod
No undertray
radiator cooling plate
and rubber trim from behind the cowl removed

Thanks 7guy! :bigtu:

pics and vids :eek5:

However, you should see lower coolant temps if you slap on an under tray, ditch the TSI's, and replace the cowl seal. Each of these mods allow air to bypass the radiator and (slightly) decrease the pressure differential across it.

I don't think these mods will have a big impact on your test because I would have expected the the external pressure above the gill region of the hood to be much greater than what is going on under the hood. Looks like that is not the case.

Pics and vids to come soon. I would have an undertray but the mounting spots snapped off while i was putting on my intercooler and it wont stay on anymore :(

Plus I like the look of the TSI's....

Not that anyone here cares as the subject has drifted :cjerk:, but the GB is now closed.

I will be doing some high speed aero testing with a windshield mounted video cam + the "tuffs of yarn taped to the hood" method in order to gauge the best location for exhaust side venting of the radiant turbo/exh manifold heat. I found a couple websites with kickass selections of drop in vents in several material types, including CF so I will have no problem making it look decent, but more importantly more functional than the gill vents of the 1st gen autokonexion hood.