BEGi V-Band S4 2860RS
 

I got my stuff in today for my V-band setup from BEGi. The turbo is a GT2860RS with the .64 turbine. As of now i don't need 375HP at the track, so I went with something that will give me the least lag possible. I will post more pictures tonight as it took 5 minutes for my phone to email just this one picture to myself.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2em3nep.jpg

Can you post some more photos of the collector?

Yeah, what else you want pics of? I will put them up tonight when I have a real camera.

Wearin' my strip club pants when I come over Saturday.

God I hate cell phone pics.
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Mostly photos of the manifold from several different angles.

Woah, talk about a bad design.

and they're off!!!

It looks like form the pics that the runners come straight in on the sides, but they don't.

More pictures are up on Bells site guys. Don't have to wait for his.
BEGi - - Front Page News - v_band_turbo

The standard S4 has a really nice collector. Why'd they decide to bring the side runners in at a 60+ degree angle on this manifold?

Also, take a shitload of detailed photos of your turbine housing for me, specifically the inlet and the overall size compared to the exit flange. I want to compare to my .86 housing.

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Oh I didn't see that they had put more up on the website.

I had both .86 and .64 turbines on my old 2871. There was a big difference in physical size/girth. This was obviously with the garrett turbine but I'm sure the tial is the same way. Sorry, no pics.

I definitely have a lot of girth.

isn't the standard s4 an ebay manifold with bracing? If so I'd say that's far from nice

This thing has some heft to it in the manifold. The runners have much thicker walls than the S4 manifold I just pulled off it. Don't get me wrong, the S4 is not fragile, but this thing is robust.

It is not an ebay manifold with a brace. That guy was sent a manifold to see if he could make them for BEGi and ended up just copying it badly and sending the manifold back.

Reading comprehension is a good skill to have. I never said anything about the manifold material or construction, and I won't because I've never seen one. What I have seen is a difference in collector style between the v-band S4 and the standard S4.

what? the garrett .64 and .86 housings are almost indistinguishable on the outside. why would the tial be much different?

Your shit is in the mail to me, pozatron. I'll mail it back to Tim on Monday.

This housing has spent more time in the back of a shipping truck than it has spent in both Tim's and my possession combined. It's like the village whore. :giggle:

You're a village whore and its a shame you haven't already shipped it so I could keep the money and blow fish-scale off a hooker's ass with it. With any luck I'll do that before I send it so at the least you can touch something that's been near a woman's sex organs.

its like the gnome that gets shipped everywhere.

I guess I'm thinking of something different, or talking out my ass again. It's been a while.

Ahh. You can sorta see in this pic, the only one I have uploaded. The left turbo is a 56 trim 2871, .86A/R, middle and right the standard 2560 & 2554.
http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...202871%202.JPG

Sav doesn't get his stuff until tomorrow.

well, the tial housings are much smaller than standard turbine housings so there may be a distinguishable difference.

it was confimed by corky. begi may have sent the manifold to china to have reproduced but what they send back is the same thing sold on ebay

I'm not talking about this new manifold. This one seems solid

I don't know about that. Sav's turbine is a lot closer to "hit block" than any of the standard turbine setups I've done.

Take your own advice. "The standard S4 has a really nice collector," your words. It's not nice.

Interesting. Miatas finally catching up to the rest of the world

He is talking about the way that they all come together. The angles that the tubes join and how they flow with each other. Not so much about the welding or looks.

BTW, the S4 manifold is actually a very nice manifold. I have one and love the hell out of it. I just want V-bands for the track.

So it is interesting BEGI did not use the separate runner/collector EWG setup they were working on for the S4. I thought they had tried a simple branch tube at the collector (like this one) and were having boost creep problems. This manifold though is a bit different than the S4 so maybe that takes care of it.

At any rate, looks great, should work great too.

That shit is awesome. Did you get the 3" DP option... and I need to know the total cost including the wastegate please.

Forget my last post, I was picturing this:

http://is.rely.net/1-2511-23397-l-oZ...P883KnkPdA.jpg

I don't know what the inside of the regular s4 looks like, but judging by the outside it does look like it would flow well.

The S4 is a braced ebay mani? What the hell are you talking about?

I'll 3rd Savington and Rharris's statements. The collector on my absolutely-not-ebay-or-made-in-china S4 mani is very well done.

overnight thanks to one guy pioneering something, and roughly 3-serious track rats pushing him.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. This design (picture) seems like it would work better, considering there isn't a 90 degree bend for the exhaust to travel through to the wastegate. Maybe testing didn't go too well...

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I am far from a track rat and won't even pretend that I am not a novice. I'm just getting this car set-up so I have one less thing to worry about.

so I take it corky personally made this manifold?

I've been following the Vband/bolts threads on here and on the miata.net

Testing took a brief (lol) hiatus... testing will begin again very soon.

One of these is from an ebay auction.

http://www.bellengineering.net/image...id_size/26.JPG

vs

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...A139M18L-B.jpg


Check your egr, does the weld look different from the rest of the manifold? it was added later.

the wg setup cant be adapted to the original s4 manifold because 16/18ga material cannot hold the wieght of a wastegate. It breaks right off.

Why does Dallas have a disproportionately high number of turbo Miata owners who are mouth-breathing retards?

:stopspaymentonpaypal:

oh, and our dad's own dealerships.

Ahh makes sense. :doh: And bracing is out of the question?
I guess I should probably just be asking Corky

this is where I read it. maybe they changed supplies since then.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t34923-2/

I'm not sure if bracing is an option here since the WG seen more strees (frequent heat cycling) than the rest of the manifold, but yes, they could give you a better answer.

There ya go, I was searching for it too, but on m.net. I forgot it was on this board.

Issue put to rest by Corky himself. Guess I'm talking out my ass as usual. Dammit. Had no idea they outsourced overseas like FM. Still say it's a nice collector though.

Wasn't it decided that the design was actually stolen, and the S4s are actually made in the US?

I didn't read anything else about this thread, but I can tell you this. I saw this picture in the beginning, as I am sitting at a bar where someone put "Hurt" by Johnny Cash on the jukebox. That picture of your V-band turbo and mani, mixed with this atmosphere, damn near brought a tear to my eye. Thanks. Gotta love the beauty of craftsmanship, but GODDAMN, this is Fucking out of hand. I want this more than I could ever have a grasp on it. I guess I'll have to go read the whole thread now.

We need to start banning the tards who can't stop running their mouths about shit the don't understand and pedophilia.