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Old 12-27-2007, 03:31 PM   #21
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if youre going for the koni/GC combo you may as well save yourself a few bucks and just order the Koni Yellows, along with the Koni adjustable sleeves and spring perches. then order yourself a set of QA-1 or ground control springs. that way you can get everything totally customized to your sepcs. then add in an RB or FM front sway bar and youll be rockin. you can get that done within your 1000 range, but takes a bit more work on your part..

spring perches...
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/category.aspx?cat=39

QA1
http://www.carrerashocks.com/motorsports.html


dont forget new upper mounts and bump stops...
Thats not cost effective...

$1.80 for seat
$20.00 for perch
$24.00 for sleeve
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$45.80 x 4 =$183.20

~$75 for each eibach spring = ~$300

$483 total.

Just call GC direct and order whatever spring rates you want.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:39 PM   #22
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You can get QA1s from summitracing.com, they're like $38 a piece. You need to do research on spring lengths though or you could end up dealing with coil bind depending on your ride heights.
I've never heard of QA1s. $38 a piece is a great price. I paid more than that for used eibachs.

Know of any reviews of these springs?
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:13 PM   #23
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no....and thats why i stay away...I stick with eibach because i know, i mean i KNOW their quality and reputation, and so does everyone else thats on this forum...
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:44 PM   #24
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Lots of people on m.net are using QA1s, FCM recommends them. They're heavily used by people that race circle track. Pretty sure Shaikh uses them in his kits. Anyway, it's pretty hard to mess up a spring.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:00 PM   #25
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I would get konis, FCM bumps, and some r-package springs
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:12 PM   #26
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Anyway, it's pretty hard to mess up a spring.
Spring sag, rates that don't stay consistent, I could go on. It's not easy, but it's doable.

GC had no problems including 700/450 springs in my kit for no added cost.

edit: Doesn't mean QA1s aren't bad springs. Lots of people using them with good results. Just saying that you CAN make a bad spring, i.e. the springs that come with eBay coilovers.

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Old 12-27-2007, 11:43 PM   #27
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Lots of people on m.net are using QA1s, FCM recommends them. They're heavily used by people that race circle track. Pretty sure Shaikh uses them in his kits. Anyway, it's pretty hard to mess up a spring.
yep, QA1 has been around for a while and i personally havent seen or heard of any poor reviews.

plus QA1 arent the only spring you can choose from. search summit racing and there are several springs that would work just fine.

just because theyre eibach doesnt mean theyre the hottest thing since sliced cheese. over priced if you ask me..
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SSS is another good spring company.
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:21 AM   #29
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i wasnt saying that they are the best thing ever...what i like about eibach springs is that i can get some whenever in whatever spring rate, i think GC sells them for $69 shipped each...they are readily available and a 2.5" diameter which is very common
i like them the best for those reasons
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All those reasons can be fulfilled by QA1 or SSS 2.5" springs in any length or rate you want. Think they go in 25 lb increments.

How would you guys like GCs for more like $353 shipped?
http://performance.yoparts.com/groun.../i-150667.aspx

Go there and sign up for a trial membership. They come out to be like ~$320 plus shipping.
I have no affiliation, just saw a smokin deal and thought i'd throw it up.
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:45 AM   #31
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what about bilstein shock? all i know is that the came off a spec miata...i picked it up at the miata recycling for 100bucks... all four with ractive springs and coilovers....any of you guys use bilstein?
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Old 12-28-2007, 03:59 AM   #32
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Lots of people use bilstein.
That's all Paul uses on his cars. Hustler uses them on his car as well. I'm sure a few more do as well.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:50 AM   #33
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tons of people on Bilstein, thats what comes stock on some miatas, like the R's M's LE's etc.
a lot of people have them revalved to their spec and throw coilovers on them, only thing is they are not adjustable, but last forever
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:53 PM   #34
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I have a 99 sport. the PO gave me the factory Bilstiens with my car, since he had agx ont here. I plan on getting them revalved.

check out factcat for some good revalving options.
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:52 PM   #35
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Are you sure you want/need adjustable coilovers?

I went through this whole process a few months ago, and settled on Koni's, FM springs, FCM bumpstops.

With the koni's on the highest perch, I'm at 12"F 12.5"R.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:04 PM   #36
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I'll throw 2 more cents into the ring. I've been running Tein SS's for about 9 months now and I have no qualms with them. Ran about 1100 for the whole setup (kit, nb hats and fm sway) and I have to say that there really isn't a bad thing with the car. I think that the valving on the shocks could be alittle better for smooth out the tiny bumps but overall the car was smoother then the old factory (non-bilstien) shocks.

I've recently been driving the DIY shopcar (95 M) and it's got me thinking about what I would do if I were to do it again. I'm almost thinking that I'd get some used bilstiens, have then revalved to work optimally with factory springs and sways and just run it like that. Factory settings just seems a little more fun then what I have. Maybe it's the body roll that makes it feel like I'm going faster.
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:05 PM   #37
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what do you guys think about the flyin miata setup (Springs, KYB AGX, and fm sways) for street use.

This is what i have on my 2000 miata, and i am still working on the settings to smooth out the bad patches of Pennsylvania road.
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I have the same set-up with OEM sways.

Though I got the (Old) FM Springs for half price, I think I should have gone straight to something "better".

Now I'm trying to figure out what "better" is for me. Shaikh was nice enough to run some scenarios for me and for a set of ultimate, never change again suspension custom made for me, would be about as much as a set of Tein Flexes!!! Yikes!

I'm re-evaluating my needs for now.

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what do you guys think about the flyin miata setup (Springs, KYB AGX, and fm sways) for street use.

This is what i have on my 2000 miata, and i am still working on the settings to smooth out the bad patches of Pennsylvania road.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:13 PM   #39
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if i were to start over i would go with bilsteins and get the FatCat revalve when i had the $ a set of GC coil overs around 600/425 and a big sway bar up front stock or no bar in back. then as $ allowed do things like r-pkg tie rod ends for bump steer and get some nice bushings and braces. basically the set up i'm running now.

i had konis with GC coil overs 500/350 RB hollow NA bar stock rear bar and loved it for street auto-x track, i changed the set up to get the car more track oriented.
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FWIW, Shaikh recommended Bilsteins.

In re-reading my e-mails with Shaikh, it looks like the price would be a little over $1000 with new Bilstein HDs, adjustable FCM perches and springs but without revalving which he said I could always do later.

This may sound like the way I may go now that I've re-read it all.

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