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Braineack 09-24-2009 03:02 PM

8. profit.

Laur3ns 09-24-2009 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 458596)
you can probably trigger the abs motor by providing 12v to the red/yellow wire off the ABS controller box. let it cycle like forevez.

Are you sure of are you paying EUR 900 per fried ABS unit?
Having that said, compressor + vacuum bleeder is actually pretty good result. Just bedded the pads in - for how well I can on the street - and pedal feel is actually not bad for a first drive.

Laur3ns 09-24-2009 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 458687)
1. jack up car
2. remove wheels and tires
3. remove ABS from car, you big vagina
4. install normal non-pussy brakes
5. bleed as normal
6. install wheels, lower car
7. ball hard

ABS is what keeps me alive in the rain, or so I think. Where is the ABS fuse actually?

Braineack 09-24-2009 03:35 PM

just pull the two relays next to the unit.

Faeflora 09-24-2009 03:56 PM

-edit below-


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 458687)
1. jack up car
2. remove wheels and tires
3. remove ABS from car, you big vagina
4. install normal non-pussy brakes
5. bleed as normal
6. install wheels, lower car
7. ball hard
8. die (when you rear end someone driving 5mph in stop and go traffic in the rain)


budget racer 09-24-2009 04:01 PM

die in a 5mph accident? hmm.....that takes mad skillz

boileralum 09-24-2009 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 458735)
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It's called adapting to your conditions. Leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front of you when driving in inclement weather. Don't let yourself get distracted when driving a 2100# missle.

Savington 09-24-2009 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 458718)
ABS is what keeps me alive in the rain, or so I think.

Might I suggest you learn to suck less ;)

Faeflora 09-24-2009 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 458738)
It's called adapting to your conditions. Leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front of you when driving in inclement weather. Don't let yourself get distracted when driving a 2100# missle.

So you're saying I should leave a larger gap to compensate for a lack of ABS? So I can skillfully extract maximum braking power with my oh so sensitive "racer's" right foot whilst I thank miataturbo.net for inspiring me to have removed my safety net and granting me the opportunity to shit myself?

Braineack 09-24-2009 04:17 PM

btw, ABS doesn't help when you're sliding backwards on ice... in fact i don't remember it working at all once it spun.

Joe Perez 09-24-2009 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 458582)
This is bullshit. Does anyone have the factory procedure for bleeding Miata ABS brakes?

In the '99 FSM, section 04-13 (ABS) covers only electromechanical troubleshooting, and does not give a special procedure for bleeding the system. The only air-bleeding procedure given in all of chapter 04 is under section 04-11, "Conventional Brake System":

http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2...3m_d07d5ed.png



Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 458718)
Where is the ABS fuse actually?

The motor is powered by the "ABS" fuse in the main relay / fuse box under the hood, near the pax shock tower. The control unit, from what I can gather of the schematic, is powered by the windshield wiper fuse.

Laur3ns 09-24-2009 05:20 PM

Thanks Joe. Im keeping ABS for now as Ive just spoken to a 94+ABS+Wilwood owner that has rock solid brakes, and not so before. Repeated bleeding is the icing on the cake apparently.

Joe: do you also have the manual page for pedal height adjustment?

minime 09-24-2009 06:02 PM

Like Sav said, ABS is for driver's that SUCK ASS ... ah I'm just jealous :fawk:

In hindsight I wish I would have looked around for an ABS equipped NA to build as my racecar, oh well - need to concentrate on sucking less ass I spoze...

I flatspotted one of my 225 Avon Tech RA's last year @ Bwillow braking into Star Mazda. I made a late pass and didn't realize my RR was locked until I noticed a smokescreen in my mirrors, DOH, that tire was DONE, squared as fuk.

Joe Perez 09-24-2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 458795)
Joe: do you also have the manual page for pedal height adjustment?

From the '92 FSM:

http://img39.imagefra.me/img/img39/2...dm_abd56ea.gif

boileralum 09-24-2009 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 458743)
So you're saying I should leave a larger gap to compensate for a lack of ABS? So I can skillfully extract maximum braking power with my oh so sensitive "racer's" right foot whilst I thank miataturbo.net for inspiring me to have removed my safety net and granting me the opportunity to shit myself?

I'm saying you should leave a larger gap when it is raining and the pavement is slick enough that you think you could skid into the car in front of you. It's pretty common sense, or so I would have thought.

Laur3ns 09-25-2009 10:13 AM

For those who actually taste vagina instead of only dreaming about it:

1. jack up car, remove wheels and tires
2. bleed as normal
3. start engine, engage 2nd gear and activate ABS, repeat 10x
4. repeat step 2 another 3x.
5. install wheels and master cylinder brace that you left off, lower car
6. ball hard
7. profit
:fawk:

Laur3ns 09-27-2009 01:28 PM

Another day of ball hard brakes.

x8mrxjohn8x 09-27-2009 02:02 PM

can you bleed from the bonjo bolts on the abs unit instead of the calipers?

Savington 09-27-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 460100)
Another day of ball hard brakes.


"Ball" is the verb form. You're looking for the adverb form, "balling".

Laur3ns 09-27-2009 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by x8mrxjohn8x (Post 460111)
can you bleed from the bonjo bolts on the abs unit instead of the calipers?

I did that last time to no avail. You can't pull a vacuum there. I won't do it again unless I've done the other method 3 times with no luck.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 460117)
"Ball" is the verb form. You're looking for the adverb form, "balling".

Weer een dag met keiharde remmen. There, I'll use my own language then.


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