Which Brake Pads, And Where??
I have PBR ultimates and like em. They stop pretty good and warm up quickly, but the first time i had to stop quickly I almost locked up when they began to bite hard after a few seconds.
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I dunno, I'm with Ben (halfway). I faded the **** out of my HP+s on the track the first time I had them out. As a street pad they are ******* AWESOME. They dust a lot, a little squeaky sometimes, but I have NEVER faded them.
Ben, I have a friend who runs HP+ on an STI and HPS on a '94 Supra Turbo. Loves the HP+s, HATES the HPS, so much that he is going to throw away the 500 mile old HPS and go BBK earlier than he was planning on the Supra. He says the HPS feels like **** compared to the HP+.
Ben, I have a friend who runs HP+ on an STI and HPS on a '94 Supra Turbo. Loves the HP+s, HATES the HPS, so much that he is going to throw away the 500 mile old HPS and go BBK earlier than he was planning on the Supra. He says the HPS feels like **** compared to the HP+.
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I dunno, I'm with Ben (halfway). I faded the **** out of my HP+s on the track the first time I had them out. As a street pad they are ******* AWESOME. They dust a lot, a little squeaky sometimes, but I have NEVER faded them.
Ben, I have a friend who runs HP+ on an STI and HPS on a '94 Supra Turbo. Loves the HP+s, HATES the HPS, so much that he is going to throw away the 500 mile old HPS and go BBK earlier than he was planning on the Supra. He says the HPS feels like **** compared to the HP+.
Ben, I have a friend who runs HP+ on an STI and HPS on a '94 Supra Turbo. Loves the HP+s, HATES the HPS, so much that he is going to throw away the 500 mile old HPS and go BBK earlier than he was planning on the Supra. He says the HPS feels like **** compared to the HP+.
Obviously my superior driving style is more conservative on brakes.
Last edited by hustler; May 10, 2008 at 04:52 PM.
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I've never had the HP+ on my car, but I've driven 2 miatas with them. I feel that the HP is a better pad for typical street driving as it bites much harder when it's not hot. The HP+ is a better pad if you can keep heat in it. Neither is appropriate for track, and you'll see that when you're making better power.
Respectfully, it really doesn't matter if HP+ is better than HP on other (very different) street applications.
Respectfully, it really doesn't matter if HP+ is better than HP on other (very different) street applications.
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Whatever you do dont buy hawk blues. They ate my rotors brand spankin new 12" Willwood rotors. I use regular street pads(autozone -20 bucks) now (track use) and havent burned through a set yet... 2 seasons... The next set I am buying are PFC-90's My family has EXCELLENT luck with them and they are supposedly a good race pad.
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HP+ and ultimates were ok on short tracks before I was turbo.
Blues and blacks are not for street use, they chew the **** out of rotors. I've seen several cars shoot flaming sparks from the wheel wells while braking in blues. I've had blacks last 6 months with mixed street and track use.
Blues and blacks are not for street use, they chew the **** out of rotors. I've seen several cars shoot flaming sparks from the wheel wells while braking in blues. I've had blacks last 6 months with mixed street and track use.
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On my DD/track beater 300ZX, my first upgraded pad was the Axxis Ultimate, then I switched to Hawk HPS, then BACK to Ultimates. The initial bite is a night/day difference. Ultimates are the best bang for the buck, IMO. I just grab the cheapest set from an eBay vendor.
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+1 For the Axxis Ultimates
Love the bite on them, as well as does ever other person that has driven my car regardless to what pad they are using. The dust like a mother but you give some to get some.
Love the bite on them, as well as does ever other person that has driven my car regardless to what pad they are using. The dust like a mother but you give some to get some.
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