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mx03tb 02-28-2008 09:13 AM

camber question?
 
Is it possible to camber the stock shock so that the top of the tire is leaned in more sort of for drifting, i heard it was possible but im not 100% sure
any help/suggestion's
i have sportmax 002 15x8 205/50/15 in the rear i just want to tuck the top in a little

Oscar 02-28-2008 09:16 AM

you can only get so much camber on stock suspension

I suggest you stretch 185's over those 15*8 wheels for extreme drift performance

Braineack 02-28-2008 09:44 AM

You can get plenty of negative camber.

m2cupcar 02-28-2008 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by mx03tb (Post 220718)
Is it possible to camber the stock shock so that the top of the tire is leaned in more...

No. The Miata has a double A arm suspension not macpherson strut single A arm. Negative camber is going to come from rolling out the cam bolts as far as possible, and lowering the car. After that you can go to some offset bushings. A lot depends on the length of control arms since there's a tolerance. I had offset lower bushings on my 99 and could get over 4* neg camber - though never ran that much.

Zabac 02-28-2008 09:49 AM

yeah, about -4* and 165-70/R15 will stretch beautifully over a 15X8 wheel

mx03tb 03-03-2008 06:03 AM

very nice is it pretty easy to do it your self or will i have to bring it to my local mazda shop..also i have stock shocks with eibach ground control coilover sleves

RusMan 03-03-2008 01:19 PM

Take it to any alignment shop and ask them to get as much negative camber as possible if you want that, you can usually get to -2.5 -3 if you're not too low, but I think that's too much camber for drifting, you want to stay somewhere around -1.8 -2*.

www.roadsterdrift.com

johndoe 03-03-2008 01:27 PM

fixed

Originally Posted by mx03tb (Post 222479)
also i have stock (soon to be blown) shocks with eibach ground control coilover sleves


mx03tb 03-04-2008 09:23 AM

haha funny any ways i went there today and they told me if i could get the whole alignment set up it would be easier for them..so if you could help me with a good set up with the camber caster and toe that would be great.

Braineack 03-04-2008 09:34 AM

FRONT:
----------
-1.5 camber
Maxed Caster (give up caster to achieve camber, make certain it's equal on both sides)
1/16" toe out

REAR:
-----------
-2.0 camber
1/16" toe in


that's fairly agressive, tire wear is normal, turn in is great.

if you don't need it, then maybe -1.3F and -1.7R

Joe Perez 03-04-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 223075)
FRONT:
----------
-1.5 camber
Maxed Caster (give up caster to achieve camber, make certain it's equal on both sides)
1/6" toe out

REAR:
-----------
-2.0 camber
1/6" toe in

+1! This is a fantastic setup if you can achieve the numbers. Brainey, I assume that was supposed to be 1/16", not 1/6"?

Braineack 03-04-2008 11:10 AM

yes. fixed.

fwiw, i just dropped my car off to go, -1.7F -2.3R with 200lbs ballasted in the driver seat.

RusMan 03-04-2008 11:13 AM

If you're gonna do a lot of drifting, I suggest to get some more negative camber on the front, somewhere around -2.

mx03tb 03-04-2008 03:55 PM

yeah oh that looks really good
thanks peeps :)

UrbanSoot 03-04-2008 04:01 PM

here are alignment specs for drifting:

Front:
Camber: -2 deg
Caster: max
Toe: 1/16" out

Rear:
Camber: 0 deg
Caster: n/a
Toe: 0

UrbanSoot 03-04-2008 04:03 PM

the idea is to have max grip up front and no grip in rear

Braineack 03-04-2008 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 223273)
the idea is to have max grip up front and no grip in rear

Obviously, Captain Obvious :)

Doppelgänger 03-04-2008 04:23 PM

I don't get why you'd want more camber in the rear then the front.....

I've always run -1.9f and -1.2 R and loved it.....with 0 toe all the way around (helps with wear)

Braineack 03-04-2008 04:31 PM

a typical spec miata alignment would be -2.0F and -2.5R......

Zabac 03-04-2008 05:32 PM

yeah but he is a driftomaniac with madtyteJDMness, needs more camber in the front


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