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can someone tell me in no uncertain terms what I need for my 99 swap?

Old May 8, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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should I really just be making a dual feed rail at 250-300whp?

There is no telling where I'm going to leave the boost set.
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Dual feed is kind of funny because of where the FPR goes. I've been nagging tunertoys to make a high volume 99 style rail. Single ended would be fine with the extra volume.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben
You probably should read the swap info on FM's site and pick up a copy of Kieth Tanner's older book. It has a section about 1.8 swaps, and I know you'll be able to follow it because there's pictures.
I've got Keith's book if you want to borrow it.

Edit: Nevermind. Sounds like you have everything.
Old May 8, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
Dual feed is kind of funny because of where the FPR goes. I've been nagging tunertoys to make a high volume 99 style rail. Single ended would be fine with the extra volume.
I think that would be a good move. Anyone who's after power is using this motor anyway.
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For the pullies, if you have the earlier 1.6, you will need the alternator of the 94-97 because the belts are different. At least that's what I heard
Old May 8, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Since you are running with the MS, you should also see about getting an M1, 1.8 alternator. The problem is, the 99+ one will be with the ECU controlling the voltage. M1 1.8's have it still on the alt.

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Originally Posted by steelrat
Since you are running with the MS, you should also see about getting an M1, 1.8 alternator. The problem is, the 99+ one will be with the ECU controlling the voltage. M1 1.8's have it still on the alt.

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I plan on using the 1.6 alternator.
Old May 8, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
but do ignore most of what Sam said.
Poop. I was almost right.
I highly suggest the fuel rail information in this thread get's added to POST#2 in the FAQ so future '99 owners have the details immediately accessible. I'll be one of them in a year or so.
Old May 8, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
-You need to figure out what you'll do for ignition as your 1.6 coil pack won't bolt to the 1.8.
Since he's got MS, why not just leave the 1.8 coils in place and run 'em as-is?
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It would be a matter of wiring it up (different pigtails) and building a tacho driver. Might as well do the Toyo cops.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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thanks ben. I plan on running the cops in due time.
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My fuel rail solution used the Yo-Yo man's Dual feed, fuel rail and a generic fuel pressure regulator off of ebay. it works great.
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yeah I just don't want the aftermarket FPR
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Old May 9, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hustler
I plan on using the 1.6 alternator.
You'll need to use the 1.6 crank pulley then too. <G>

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Hustler, 1.8 alternators are easy and cheap to come buy, it would save you some hassel if you used the 94-97. Try to find an automatic one if you can, more amps.
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Hustler, 1.8 alternators are easy and cheap to come buy, it would save you some hassel if you used the 94-97. Try to find an automatic one if you can, more amps.
what bracket should I use then, and will I have to mod it? I do not have the 99 bracket. I assume that I can then use the 99 pullies.
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you will need a 99 bracket
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Old May 9, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben
you will need a 99 bracket
I originally planned on using the 1.6 bracket from some write-up. I need to just go to my parents house and hope to remember what that big box of parts looks like...of course everything else is in a labeled bag.
Old May 10, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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is this the alternator bracket?
Old May 10, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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That is the power steering mount. Motor looks good by the way.

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