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KCS 07-12-2016 09:34 PM

Cast turbo manifolds
 
Wondering if theres a bit of demand for cast turbo manifolds?, if so, what model turbos are most commonly used?

astral 07-12-2016 09:48 PM

Wait... what? Aren't there a million cast turbo manifolds?

First post...
In b4 infinite negative cats.

psyber_0ptix 07-12-2016 09:53 PM

cast us some pimp intake manifolds

Chiburbian 07-13-2016 07:42 AM

In all seriousness some people are using Subaru TD04 style turbos on these cars and there is currently no cast manifold that supports them.

The common turbos are garret T25 flange but there are already well respected manifolds for those turbos and a fair number in the used market for a reasonable price.

So you can either put out an also-ran manifold or you can innovate and be the only out of the box solution. You pick.

Braineack 07-13-2016 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by KCS (Post 1345827)
Wondering if theres a bit of demand for cast turbo manifolds?, if so, what model turbos are most commonly used?

www.kemotorsport.com


why dont you do your own research? it would seriously take you three seconds.

18psi 07-13-2016 09:07 AM

because its so much easier to be lazy

Shortpersonbk 07-13-2016 09:08 AM

Miata turbo is the only forums in the entire world that would rag on a business for asking if there is interest in a product giving people a voice and a chance to get something they are seriously interested in.



Should just be happy that someone is interested in making a product for 20+ year old car.
Mind blowing how shitty these forums are...but then again i keep clicking the link when bored on break at work so i guess thats my fault.


18psi 07-13-2016 09:11 AM

yeah. if you don't like it, get out.

Braineack 07-13-2016 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1345917)
because its so much easier to be lazy

I like to be lazy too when im trying to design products in order to make money.

18psi 07-13-2016 09:14 AM

that's when we know you're really committed and will follow through with the plan

shuiend 07-13-2016 09:15 AM

We already have 5/6 cast manifolds on the market for 1.8 Miata's. I don't really see the need for any more. Especially for what it costs to get them made correctly. And unless you are going to be selling a downpipe to go with it, the manifold alone is sort of pointless.

Braineack 07-13-2016 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Shortpersonbk (Post 1345918)
Miata turbo is the only forums in the entire world that would rag on a business for asking if there is interest in a product giving people a voice and a chance to get something they are seriously interested in...

Wanna pay for sponsorship for the free advertising your getting?

18psi 07-13-2016 09:20 AM

Naw, he just wants to cry about MT not accepting his alternative lifestyle

Braineack 07-13-2016 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1345932)
Naw, he just wants to cry about MT not accepting his alternative lifestyle

I hate the straights.

Dunning Kruger Affect 07-13-2016 10:10 AM

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Braineack 07-13-2016 10:13 AM

my ex-coworker just left here for a job at AOL. she would get pissed when people would always respond "They still exist?!"

yossi126 07-13-2016 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1345902)
In all seriousness some people are using Subaru TD04 style turbos on these cars and there is currently no cast manifold that supports them.

This. I have a couple of friends with td04 who bought the begi manifold just to make an adapter for it, and another one sitting on the fence considering selling his 16t and go garrett.
A cast for a td04 would be something never done before and surely there is a market for.
And a matching downpipe would be a win.

18psi 07-13-2016 10:39 AM

Would people pay 400+ for them though? When there's perfectly good t2 manifolds ranging from 80-550 in all sorts of configurations, and with downpipes to match?

I think a lot of people like the idea of certain things, or welcome them in theory, but when the rubber meets the road, the market is nowhere near as good as it seems.

It's not gonna cost 50 bux to bring these to market. The only time you can pull that off is when you're making a knockoff with all the design/engineering already done, and then outsourcing to china for the casting, with no QC. Like the OG FM/Begi knockoffs that recently hit ebay

damir130 07-13-2016 10:39 AM

I believe there is a UK company (G19) that are doing cast TD04 manifolds with corresponding downpipes.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1c366eead2.jpg


18psi 07-13-2016 10:42 AM

for a Miata?

that's really cool. never seen that. details?

Chiburbian 07-13-2016 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1345960)
Would people pay 400+ for them though? When there's perfectly good t2 manifolds ranging from 180-550 in all sorts of configurations, and with downpipes to match?

I think a lot of people like the idea of certain things, or welcome them in theory, but when the rubber meets the road, the market is nowhere near as good as it seems.

I agree with this as well. To add, the people I have seen using the TD04 style flange are people who have more skill/time than money. I don't think there are MANY people looking for a cast TD04 manifold, but it is one of the only places I can see that will differentiate your product. You can either go for the high end and compete with the Trackspeed EFR turbo kit, or you can go super low end. The middle of the market is pretty well full with BEGI/FM.

Whereas there may be a lack of product in the low end TD04, will the people who are using that turbo for budget reasons be willing to pay the price for a properly engineered cast manifold? I am skeptical along with 18psi.

aidandj 07-13-2016 10:46 AM

Those look like cast steel. And really good quality.

Chiburbian 07-13-2016 10:47 AM

G19 Engineering - MX-5 > MX5 Turbo Manifold and Down Pipe Combination.

Though - that's tig not cast.

18psi 07-13-2016 10:49 AM

shows weld-el logs on the product pics. unless the above pictured cast units just came out recently

also that's $700, which is what a begi/fm mani+dp costs

Shortpersonbk 07-13-2016 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1345928)
Wanna pay for sponsorship for the free advertising your getting?

Look all im saying is some random company just posted up asking if there is a market for them to build xxx for your car. You want them to research this is a form of research contacting people within a market and asking them what they would like to see. I guess another option would be to read through miata turbo finding all 68,000 of your post 67,500 of which are just most likely you bashing people for bullshit lol?

I truly do not see why someone would bash a company for wanting to make products for your platform.
MMMMK

18psi 07-13-2016 11:09 AM

some random company
randomly posted up a feeler to make a quick buck without giving a fraction of a crap about the market they're allegedly getting into
1 +cat says they won't even post again. or even read this thread
yeah, I have lots of faith in the follow through. almost as much as I have in you.

unwad the panties. you are the crying liberal no one was waiting for

*edit: in fact, I removed his blatant spam-link to their product page because non-vendor

Shortpersonbk 07-13-2016 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1345979)
some random company
randomly posted up a feeler to make a quick buck without giving a fraction of a crap about the market they're allegedly getting into
1 +cat says they won't even post again. or even read this thread
yeah, I have lots of faith in the follow through. almost as much as I have in you.

unwad the panties. you are the crying liberal no one was waiting for

*edit: in fact, I removed his blatant spam-link to their product page because non-vendor

I am not sure why you would need to have faith in me lol...

Idk why anyone would post after all the bashing you guys gave them. But I guess the correct thing to do would be for them to post clearing it all up. Will they follow through no clue not my problem.

You claim they are trying to make a quick buck..and while I have very little experience with castings in my line of work as I just design the pieces that check said castings it is not like it is a zero dollar investment for a quick buck.


18psi 07-13-2016 11:19 AM

IDK how we've managed to stay online after being so bad for so many years.
We've run off all the vendors and all the members, it's essentially a dead forum.

....oh wait

Shortpersonbk 07-13-2016 11:29 AM

I never said it was dead...but you cannot possibly believe that posting around bashing people proving your superiority makes it a great place either.
There is a little bits of information in random places and that is about the only good thing. If you ask anything you are just bashed granted I have escaped most of that seeing it happen to the other 90% gets old. This post is another example of that.

Nasioc isnt nearly this bad and there are 99% more idiots on there far too busy vaping and wearing skinny jeans to put oil in their car.

bahurd 07-13-2016 11:30 AM

edit - sorry, posted after a bunch of others...

damir130 07-13-2016 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1345989)
G19 Engineering - MX-5 > MX5 Turbo Manifold and Down Pipe Combination. although it looks like a welded manifold from the pic from what I see.

All I know is from this thread:
G19 Evolution2 Turbo Manifold And Down Pipe Kits. - Group Buys - MX5Nutz Forum

They do look interesting..and at the moment they are cheaper every day.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a51db5b8d1.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1336619b42.jpg


18psi 07-13-2016 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Shortpersonbk (Post 1345988)
I never said it was dead...but you cannot possibly believe that posting around bashing people proving your superiority makes it a great place either.
There is a little bits of information in random places and that is about the only good thing. If you ask anything you are just bashed granted I have escaped most of that seeing it happen to the other 90% gets old. This post is another example of that.

Nasioc isnt nearly this bad and there are 99% more idiots on there far too busy vaping and wearing skinny jeans to put oil in their car.

I am here to prevent vapetards like you from turning this place into the pathetic dingleberry that is Nabisco.

this will be the last response you get on this topic

Originally Posted by damir130 (Post 1345993)

that is very cool actually.

yossi126 07-13-2016 04:05 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...60fcbcc841.jpgTD04 T6 flange

This is the type that needs a solution. Plenty of triangle-like manifolds to choose from mainly from uk. But haven't seen a t6 miata manifold.

psyber_0ptix 07-13-2016 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1345995)
I am here to prevent vapetards like you from turning this place into the pathetic dingleberry that is Nabisco.

I miss the pre65k member days. Then all the Honda-tech and vwvortex kiddos took advantage of Susie's great depreciation

90 Turbo 09-30-2016 11:05 PM

Edit to remove my own post
2 month old thread pulled me off sides.
Looks like nice products

JasonC SBB 10-02-2016 10:23 AM

How about for an EVO X factory turbo? They're inexpensive and are twin scroll.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a3cb3553c5.jpg


18psi 01-02-2017 10:09 PM

I don't see a "sponsor" label under your name.

farpolemiddle 01-02-2017 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1384402)
I don't see a "sponsor" label under your name.

Ban or no balls


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