Connector Witch Hunt
#341
The one I am showing is a CAS plug from a mazda millenia S. The one I am dealing with is the injector plug from a Mazda KL V6 which is the same as this one.
I actually already started to do this exact thing since its my only option. Cutting it without damaging the metal pins encased in the plastic is a little difficult with a hacksaw or power tools, so I am using my utility knife with a fresh razor blade, heating it with a propane torch and easily going through the plastic without hurting the pins. Sounds ugly but once its all carefully trimmed up it should work well.
I actually already started to do this exact thing since its my only option. Cutting it without damaging the metal pins encased in the plastic is a little difficult with a hacksaw or power tools, so I am using my utility knife with a fresh razor blade, heating it with a propane torch and easily going through the plastic without hurting the pins. Sounds ugly but once its all carefully trimmed up it should work well.
#342
People get something that works, it only takes you an afternoon to make 30 of them, and everyone wins. Of course, if it were me, I'd let a company that does this all day do it for me - even though it's not hard, it's just not worth it.
#343
Well, glad it is working for you. I don't understand putting in this amount of labor compared to a simple re-pin as we carry connectors that will mate to each other with the same terminals. Seems like trying to make slicks out of worn street tires by laboriously shaving them instead of just buying relatively low cost slicks that are 10mm too wide. Made sure your junction is good. If you are soldering, clean lots, use flux and balance heat to make sure you aren't making a cold joint while not melting the housing. After that be sure to seal it all up well, adhesive lined heatshrink is a good option.
I told you why I was doing it already. This is for a few other people and most people want a PnP hold my hand solution. If this was my own car then yes I see your point and I would have no problem re-pinning to a different connector.
#345
I believe we have or can get it. A shot of the back is a poor angle for identification if that is the only image you provide. An iso angle at the front and straight on shot IN FOCUS and with GOOD LIGHTING will help us validate. Knowing the blade (side to side) width of the terminals will help too.
#346
I believe we have or can get it. A shot of the back is a poor angle for identification if that is the only image you provide. An iso angle at the front and straight on shot IN FOCUS and with GOOD LIGHTING will help us validate. Knowing the blade (side to side) width of the terminals will help too.
#348
I just added the data for the "purge valve solenoid" - wiring diagramm for 99-00 connector nr. B1-19 (maybe also for 01-05) to the google spreadsheet
It look's like this -
It's a AMP Sealed sensor connector - Part.Nr. 184002-1 (though the one in the car is black not grey like this part. nr.)
@vtjballeng - you already have them listed as "boost solenoid connector for japanese cars" - maybe you can list them in the Miata subdirectory.
Link is here:
Home » Shop » Connectors / Harnesses » Tyco / AMP » 2 - Way Plug Connector Assembly
It look's like this -
It's a AMP Sealed sensor connector - Part.Nr. 184002-1 (though the one in the car is black not grey like this part. nr.)
@vtjballeng - you already have them listed as "boost solenoid connector for japanese cars" - maybe you can list them in the Miata subdirectory.
Link is here:
Home » Shop » Connectors / Harnesses » Tyco / AMP » 2 - Way Plug Connector Assembly
#349
Many of those old Bosch connectors seem to use the Junior Power Timer (JPT) terminals based on browsing the catalog on Ballenger. http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...roducts_id/414
If that is the case maybe I could use something like one of these Bosch WBO2 receptacle/connector packages http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...oducts_id/1701
#350
2-pin JPT is available in both female and male
http://www.corsa-technic.com/item.ph...ategory_id=146
Could move 2 IAT pins over to a 2-pin (using plugs to fill the holes if you're feeling fancy), but it won't be as clean as other repins due to the rubber boot on the 7-way JPT OEM connector that makes it difficult to replace with any other connector.
http://www.corsa-technic.com/item.ph...ategory_id=146
Could move 2 IAT pins over to a 2-pin (using plugs to fill the holes if you're feeling fancy), but it won't be as clean as other repins due to the rubber boot on the 7-way JPT OEM connector that makes it difficult to replace with any other connector.
#351
I ended up cutting up an AFM to make an adapter for that one. The CAS and igniter repins are super clean because there's no boot and the right pin count automotive connector is available, but the AFM repin isn't as straightforward.
TE makes a lot of 7+ pin JPT shells, though. Most are weird and multirow with no boot, though.
AMP : Junior Power Timer | TE Connectivity
TE makes a lot of 7+ pin JPT shells, though. Most are weird and multirow with no boot, though.
AMP : Junior Power Timer | TE Connectivity
#352
Yes, we have the 7 pin AFM connector. Going up on the website after I get through a long queue. We also have the ECM connectors for several Miata years now (both sides).
CONN-75960 is the 7 way AFM Connector Kit, CONN-85960 is the 7 way AFM Connector Pigtail (will be ~Dec 2016 before they are up on website, contact us for custom orders before then). Some people ask for the mate. We can get one! But I have to bring in ~200 pieces to start as it just isn't common.
On the multi-way housings, we do carry 2 way JPT kits with both sides: CONN-200005 ( Home » Shop » Connectors / Harnesses » Delphi / Packard » Mating Connector Pair Kits » GM Delphi / Packard - 2-way EV1 connector pair push to seat ).
I've got some 3 way JPT housing pairs which are scheduled to go up soon. In the meantime the plug is CONN-85853, kit is CONN-75853. Receptacle Pigtail is CONN-85854, kit is CONN-75854 (both scheduled to go up in late ~ Oct 2016).
Here is a mating pair of housings that are 6 way and use JPT Terminals (CONN-75605 & CONN-75740):
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics
CONN-75960 is the 7 way AFM Connector Kit, CONN-85960 is the 7 way AFM Connector Pigtail (will be ~Dec 2016 before they are up on website, contact us for custom orders before then). Some people ask for the mate. We can get one! But I have to bring in ~200 pieces to start as it just isn't common.
On the multi-way housings, we do carry 2 way JPT kits with both sides: CONN-200005 ( Home » Shop » Connectors / Harnesses » Delphi / Packard » Mating Connector Pair Kits » GM Delphi / Packard - 2-way EV1 connector pair push to seat ).
I've got some 3 way JPT housing pairs which are scheduled to go up soon. In the meantime the plug is CONN-85853, kit is CONN-75853. Receptacle Pigtail is CONN-85854, kit is CONN-75854 (both scheduled to go up in late ~ Oct 2016).
Here is a mating pair of housings that are 6 way and use JPT Terminals (CONN-75605 & CONN-75740):
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics
Last edited by vtjballeng; 09-12-2016 at 03:44 PM.
#353
Thanks for the quick replies!
What I want to do is use the wires how Brain does, 2 for IAT, 2 for EBC, and 2 jumpered for fuel pump.
afm- Can you confirm then that my suspicion of them being Bosch JPT terminals is correct? That's what it sounds like but want to be sure. I see what you mean about the boot covering the wires vs there being ones on the individual wires. I haven't tried on my car, but can't you pull the boot off and slide it back down on the loom casing to get to the wires? If so, and the terminals could be inserted into CONN-75605 (http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/734) . That connector has a similar boot flange that the stock boot could be pushed over. Assuming terminal compatibility, I'm willing to buy one to find out. Boot pulled down http://imgur.com/1RjYAxo
vtjballeng - Can you confirm that the AFM connector uses JPT terminals? Long term, and possibly before I even do the swap, I would definitely prefer to use the stock connectors. I would definitely want to use the receptacle side as well. Is that side sealed? Do they only come in device mounted packages like some of the other OE receptacles that aren't available?
What I want to do is use the wires how Brain does, 2 for IAT, 2 for EBC, and 2 jumpered for fuel pump.
afm- Can you confirm then that my suspicion of them being Bosch JPT terminals is correct? That's what it sounds like but want to be sure. I see what you mean about the boot covering the wires vs there being ones on the individual wires. I haven't tried on my car, but can't you pull the boot off and slide it back down on the loom casing to get to the wires? If so, and the terminals could be inserted into CONN-75605 (http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/734) . That connector has a similar boot flange that the stock boot could be pushed over. Assuming terminal compatibility, I'm willing to buy one to find out. Boot pulled down http://imgur.com/1RjYAxo
vtjballeng - Can you confirm that the AFM connector uses JPT terminals? Long term, and possibly before I even do the swap, I would definitely prefer to use the stock connectors. I would definitely want to use the receptacle side as well. Is that side sealed? Do they only come in device mounted packages like some of the other OE receptacles that aren't available?
#354
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics
You can tell if the sides are squared off if it is the CONN-100530 family or CONN-100315 family.
This is the CONN-100315 family (CONN-100315, CONN-75729, CONN-85729):
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics
If you can validate the application, I will update it.
#355
Thanks for the quick replies!
What I want to do is use the wires how Brain does, 2 for IAT, 2 for EBC, and 2 jumpered for fuel pump.
afm- Can you confirm then that my suspicion of them being Bosch JPT terminals is correct? That's what it sounds like but want to be sure. I see what you mean about the boot covering the wires vs there being ones on the individual wires. I haven't tried on my car, but can't you pull the boot off and slide it back down on the loom casing to get to the wires? If so, and the terminals could be inserted into CONN-75605 ( http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/734 ) . That connector has a similar boot flange that the stock boot could be pushed over. Assuming terminal compatibility, I'm willing to buy one to find out. Boot pulled down Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
vtjballeng - Can you confirm that the AFM connector uses JPT terminals? Long term, and possibly before I even do the swap, I would definitely prefer to use the stock connectors. I would definitely want to use the receptacle side as well. Is that side sealed? Do they only come in device mounted packages like some of the other OE receptacles that aren't available?
What I want to do is use the wires how Brain does, 2 for IAT, 2 for EBC, and 2 jumpered for fuel pump.
afm- Can you confirm then that my suspicion of them being Bosch JPT terminals is correct? That's what it sounds like but want to be sure. I see what you mean about the boot covering the wires vs there being ones on the individual wires. I haven't tried on my car, but can't you pull the boot off and slide it back down on the loom casing to get to the wires? If so, and the terminals could be inserted into CONN-75605 ( http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/734 ) . That connector has a similar boot flange that the stock boot could be pushed over. Assuming terminal compatibility, I'm willing to buy one to find out. Boot pulled down Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
vtjballeng - Can you confirm that the AFM connector uses JPT terminals? Long term, and possibly before I even do the swap, I would definitely prefer to use the stock connectors. I would definitely want to use the receptacle side as well. Is that side sealed? Do they only come in device mounted packages like some of the other OE receptacles that aren't available?
Looks like this forum can corrupt links easily on edits & when posting. I had to go back on several edits and double click the link and choose http and re-format the link. Not good.... looks like you were trying to link to CONN-75605 -> http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...roducts_id/734
CONN-75605 is sealed. We do have the receptacle for it, CONN-75740 http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...oducts_id/1701 . One of my links above provided the whole family including connectors, kits, pigtails, & extension for this particular 6 way JPT using housing ( http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/adv...keywords=75605 ).
Last edited by vtjballeng; 09-12-2016 at 03:46 PM.
#356
Another resource I just discovered at SEMA. Expensive and nothing for NA's but still potentially useful
Find Pigtails - Home
Find Pigtails - Home
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#357
Another resource I just discovered at SEMA. Expensive and nothing for NA's but still potentially useful
Find Pigtails - Home
Find Pigtails - Home
#358
#359
Agreed. The 99/00 coil pack uses a 4 pin connector where only 3 pins are populated.
I noticed the Ballenger Miata page has the same 3 pin connector listed for 1989 - 2005, but I believe that specific 3 pin connector only fits the 01-05 factory quazi-COPs. I cannot comment on the 89-97 fitment, but I know its wrong for 99/00.
I noticed the Ballenger Miata page has the same 3 pin connector listed for 1989 - 2005, but I believe that specific 3 pin connector only fits the 01-05 factory quazi-COPs. I cannot comment on the 89-97 fitment, but I know its wrong for 99/00.
https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/mazda_miata.php
Also, you will need a cavity plug for the unfilled position which is CONN-00130:
https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pr...roducts_id/683
#360
I just replaced the pigtail for the temperature sensor at the front back of the head (on the reroute block).
Posting because finding this was a bitch and a half.
Link to bmotorsports.com pigtail for 7.99
edit- note, this looks very similar to some other connectors but can be distinguished by the alignment of the slots on the side-
the left one is low,
the right one is high and
the bottom one is in the middle.
Posting because finding this was a bitch and a half.
Link to bmotorsports.com pigtail for 7.99
edit- note, this looks very similar to some other connectors but can be distinguished by the alignment of the slots on the side-
the left one is low,
the right one is high and
the bottom one is in the middle.