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Old 02-05-2007, 01:20 PM   #1
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Default crazy swap idea.. VR6t

With all of the other engines that find their way into a Miata's bay, I'm pretty surprised I haven't seen any VR6 swaps. They're light(ish), bigger displacement, great sound, etc. There are even RWD versions. Oh, and they make sick, sick power when turbocharged

Has anyone entertained the thought or perhaps even seen one?
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With all of the other engines that find their way into a Miata's bay, I'm pretty surprised I haven't seen any VR6 swaps. They're light(ish), bigger displacement, great sound, etc. There are even RWD versions. Oh, and they make sick, sick power when turbocharged

Has anyone entertained the thought or perhaps even seen one?

I'd love too, but its too much work. I still have a 2.9l forged motor in my garage that ran a t3/t04 and put down 380whp on a chip with an o2 clamp. Its a pretty tall motor though, I doubt it would fit. A 3.2 would be insane in a miata.

yes, it is the best sounding engine ever put together. I love getting two next to each other on the highway, and the cool dissonance.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:33 PM   #3
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By VR6, do you mean the engine in the Stealth/3000GT?

If so, it'd be easier to get a pushrod V8 in the engine bay than a DOHC V6, especially if it were twin-turbo'd. It'd be too tall and wide. As with anything, it could be done with enough time and money. Nevermind, I'm thinking of the VR4

You're talking about VAG's VR6...narrow-angle V6? Yeah, that'd have a much better chance of fitting. Probably pretty tall engine, though.
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or do a KLZE and call it a day!
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:05 PM   #5
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or a CA-18DET/KA24DE (or maybe t? LOL)

(240 guys know what im talkin about)
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Friend of mine is using a CA18DET for his Locost build
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:29 PM   #7
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i'm seriously considering getting another NA and throwin a built CA in....it would be a beast...but then again so would a built supercharged KA24.....
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Dude, there's another 1.8L engine that was built to be turbo'd and would be much easier to swap in a Miata... [wait for it...wait for it]

It's the 1.8L BP Miata engine!

Seriously, I can't imagine swapping in another 4-cylinder of like displacement...makes no sense whatsoever.
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Dude, there's another 1.8L engine that was built to be turbo'd and would be much easier to swap in a Miata... [wait for it...wait for it]

It's the 1.8L BP Miata engine!

Seriously, I can't imagine swapping in another 4-cylinder of like displacement...makes no sense whatsoever.
a 1.8t vw motor is pretty sick. They are pretty much the only thing left, worth a ****. I'd love to do a direct injection motor too.

I agree though, a bp gets the job done.
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Seriously, I can't imagine swapping in another 4-cylinder of like displacement...
me neither - nor something of another make when something of same will fit more easily
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:35 PM   #11
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what about an evo engine
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what about adding an extra hampster into the wheel?
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what about adding an extra hampster into the wheel?
Thats way too ******* expensive, and way too much upkeep involved.

Every time you add another hamster the maintenance goes up two fold, i thought everyone knew this...

Jesus, get real.
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Thats way too ******* expensive, and way too much upkeep involved.

Every time you add another hamster the maintenance goes up two fold, i thought everyone knew this...

Jesus, get real.
I know, I know. Hamster fuel is almost as expensive as avgas these days. But hamsters constantly have litters, and you sell off the babies to recoup costs.
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topic<---- ----> yous guys



Brian: the VW/Audi VR6, from 2.8-3.6 liters. My pref. would be the 24v 3.2L.

Ruger: SR20s are easier and have been done at least 3 times, that I've seen anyway. And they're the only AL 240SX engine IIRC.

Savior: for the hassle, if I was going to do a 2.0L 4cyl. I'd rather have an F20C or SR20DET. Both have been done and aren't as heavy as the EVO's closed-deck iron block, and they have RWD transmissions available.
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Im the only person I think that would be stoked on a K series honda swap

do they still spin the wrong way?
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Wouldn't it be cool if there was a mazda 2.0L that bolted up to the Miata trans and was stronger than the SR20det?
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That's crazy talk! Next you'll be saying it's possible to swap interiors:gay:
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:28 AM   #19
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Im the only person I think that would be stoked on a K series honda swap

do they still spin the wrong way?
Probably. Most Honda engines do. But then F>K (more like F=K really but I won't get too technical) and the K hasn't been done yet, and doesn't have anything over on the F20C other than variable intake cam timing.

EDIT - Dammit. More freaking 4-banger talk. This is the 6s thread people, SIXES!

Where are you WOT?
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how bout rb25..... rb26..... 2jz......
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