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vanilla.gorilla 12-05-2014 09:27 PM

Custom Aluminum Intake
 
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Hey guys I am terrible at getting on here and posting to the forum, so i figured id share the little intake project i just built. So heres the deal i could buy an aftermarket one for 200$, find a stock one which most people were asking over 90$ or build my own. I went about finding some aluminum online and ordered some 2 3/4 inch 1/8 in wall 6060 aluminum. I got a 90 and 45 to complete the project, below are some pictures....

Started with sizing up the first piece to the TB, cut about 3.5 inch off.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Prepping the lip to be welded back on.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Didnt want to scratch the aluminum with wire brush to remove oxidation but instead cleaned it thoroughly with acetone. Aluminum is extremely sensitive to contaminants and wont weld well if not clean.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Bead welded back on
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Prepping the 45 to go in that will attach to the MAF box.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Welded Out
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
Finish Product
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417832875

I will next be making a stand to hold the MAF box up and attach it to the body right below. Fun little project and saved a lot of money compared to buying an aftermarket one. I will continue to upload my fab projects as i go along on this miata.

cyotani 12-05-2014 09:47 PM

Nice aluminium welding.

vanilla.gorilla 12-06-2014 11:54 PM

I will be making these for sale at somepoint if anybodies interested. I can also do custom set ups for turbos amongst any other thing in your engine bay related to aluminum or steel. PM me if interested.

furrycurry33 12-07-2014 02:14 AM

I think you're doing the whole coolant reroute thing wrong.

vanilla.gorilla 12-07-2014 02:30 AM

What do you mean? I am going from the thermostat housing to the radiator.... its gonna be no different than the factory location where it already was. I tested the hose to make sure it would fit.

Braineack 12-07-2014 10:15 AM

this is miataturbo.net not: miataspendinglotsoftimeandeffortkeepingitslowcar.c om

vanilla.gorilla 12-07-2014 10:18 AM

Thanks just trying to show some work i did but i guess you wouldnt understand considering you couldnt do this yourself.

TurboTim 12-07-2014 11:19 AM

This would be perfect as part of the fabrication thread. Here I came in expecting a custom aluminum intake...manifold :(

BoostedSmurf 12-07-2014 11:31 AM

I also came here expecting a manifold. I have a sad now

curly 12-07-2014 01:29 PM

Might wanna throw up some dyno results before trying to sell?

vanilla.gorilla 12-07-2014 03:24 PM

Thanks, maybe i should build a custom manifold. Ill consider it. As far as power gains i doubt your going to see too much from an air intake. Maybe an extra 2-3 hp would be all id expect.

sixshooter 12-07-2014 11:04 PM

The front thermostat housing location is typically blocked off on turbo applications because it promotes uneven cooling of the engine. It won't effect you if you are naturally aspirated because you won't make enough power, and therefore heat, to have it matter.

Braineack 12-08-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by furrycurry33 (Post 1187623)
I think you're doing the whole coolant reroute thing wrong.

That's a JR spacer so it can clear an intake crossover like that.


Thanks just trying to show some work i did but i guess you wouldnt understand considering you couldnt do this yourself.
Oh I completely understand. But it's not a matter of if I could do this myself or not, it's a matter of I wouldn't want to.

I could make this happen without welding--to spend more time with my boyfriend--for $50 in parts from siliconeintakes.com. Specifically (1) 135° pipe, (3) couplers, and a silicone port for a 1/2 NPT fitting.

curly 12-08-2014 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by vanilla.gorilla (Post 1187701)
Thanks, maybe i should build a custom manifold. Ill consider it. As far as power gains i doubt your going to see too much from an air intake. Maybe an extra 2-3 hp would be all id expect.

Right, I'm just saying even with a 3d printed, flow-designed intake, we've had members test their intake to make sure there's any gain. I've had intakes restrict as much as 8hp due to their design, and I did one muffler test that by putting a giant quiet magnaflow on with a 90* bend on the end, I gained 3hp and 2ft/lbs.

It all kinda means nothing though, since you're corking the end of the intake with an AFM.

cyotani 12-08-2014 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1187863)
Right, I'm just saying even with a 3d printed, flow-designed intake, we've had members test their intake to make sure there's any gain. I've had intakes restrict as much as 8hp due to their design, and I did one muffler test that by putting a giant quiet magnaflow on with a 90* bend on the end, I gained 3hp and 2ft/lbs.

It all kinda means nothing though, since you're corking the end of the intake with an AFM.

The 1.6 cross over tube isn't a great flowing piece (too many tight radius bends). This will flow better in just a tube to tube comparison. But I agree that as long as the stock vane style MAF is used there will be very minimal (if any) gains.

vanilla.gorilla 12-08-2014 07:57 PM

Exactly haha, but i didnt build it for flow gains. If i wanted power id go forced induction. Stock mods never do much for miatas. The only way to get real power is to turbo or supercharge.

curly 12-08-2014 08:24 PM

Well, although 124rwhp isn't "real power", but achievable on a 1.6, and a significant upgrade from the 116 crank hp. So yes, "stock mods" do quite a bit for miatas. You just have to know what you're doing.

brainzata 12-08-2014 09:16 PM

You just lost around 4 ft lbs of torque by eliminating the helmholtz chamber. The box up near the TB on the crossover tube. Should have incorporated that in with a 1.25" aluminum tube welded on your new tuubularrrr intake.

cyotani 12-08-2014 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brainzata (Post 1188018)
You just lost around 4 ft lbs of torque by eliminating the helmholtz chamber. The box up near the TB on the crossover tube. Should have incorporated that in with a 1.25" aluminum tube welded on your new tuubularrrr intake.

The resonator?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418094269

Full_Tilt_Boogie 12-08-2014 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by cyotani (Post 1188026)


Originally Posted by TargaMiata.com
March 4, 2008 - Despite the problems, we did get a chance for some comparative testing on the dyno.
My temporary intake pulled hot air from behind the radiator. That's one reason it was temporary, and why it was mounted upside down in the previous picture of the car on the dyno.
For interest's sake, we pulled out a stock 1994 intake tract that includes a resonating Heimholtz chamber. It's not perfectly sized for my engine - I believe the theory says it should be equivalent to 1.5 cylinders worth of displacement - but it was worth trying. And whaddya know, it did something! Nothing major, but 4 lb-ft at 4000 rpm for free is nothing to complain about. The red graph is the stock setup.
http://www.targamiata.com/images_lrg...take_tract.pdf
Using the stock crossover tube will also let me put the filter in a cooler place than right behind the rad, which will reap benefits in the real world where having a filter sticking through the hood is awkward to arrange.
In the picture, you can see the filter from my original intake resting inside the engine bay. Don't be fooled, we don't have some sort of bizarre dual-filter setup going here.

There are definitely a few torques in there over ~1500 rpm.


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