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1redcanuck 08-12-2009 05:40 PM

Did my fuel pump just suddenly die?
 
Car's been running great. Just came back from lunch, went over the hump at the end of the driveway and my car dies. I can start it, but I can barely keep it idleing and it will not rev. I have checked for any loose connections that I can think of:@fuel pump, ecu, ecu ground, cas. Any suggestions? Please help I do not want to have to pay for a tow.

1redcanuck 08-12-2009 06:18 PM

Just checked TPS sensor connection and fuses as well. Could the pump just die like that?ANYONE?

miatamike203 08-12-2009 06:19 PM

check psi at the tank or coming to the line

1redcanuck 08-12-2009 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by miatamike203 (Post 441910)
check psi at the tank or coming to the line


Thanks for the reply. I can do this once my car is home but right now my car is in my work parking lot.

04 Miata 08-12-2009 06:26 PM

Going over the hump and having it happen makes me think you knocked something loose not the FP failed. Have you checked your intercooler piping?

miatamike203 08-12-2009 06:30 PM

If that checks good then check your ignition. I take it your running with out the AFM.

miatamike203 08-12-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by 04 Miata (Post 441914)
Going over the hump and having it happen makes me think you knocked something loose not the FP failed. Have you checked your intercooler piping?

That's also another thing im thinking but if he is running with his AFM removed and off a map signal this wouldn't make his car not run.
so until we got more info that's about as much as i could think.

04 Miata 08-12-2009 06:43 PM

He says it runs but doesn't rev

miatamike203 08-12-2009 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 04 Miata (Post 441923)
He says it runs but doesn't rev

He has a 93 which has the AFM car will idle but as soon as you touch the pedal it will die if some thing is wrong with it.

1redcanuck 08-12-2009 07:22 PM

Thanks guys. Just had my car towed home, no charge thanks to a coworkers CAA. Intercooler piping is fine, actually it did come apart once in the past but car still ran fine, just no boost. I am using the Link MAP sensor. I will look into the ignition in a couple of days. I am going to a friends cottage tomorrow(in a different car of coarse). What should I look for in the ignition?

Joe Perez 08-12-2009 07:45 PM

The symptoms described strongly suggest a fueling issue. Could be a clogged filter, an ailing pump, maybe even an issue with the electrical supply to the pump.

Filter is easy- change it. Don't even think about it, just replace the damn thing. You know you never have before. It's time.

Electrical supply ain't hard- use a voltmeter to measure voltage across both terminals of the pump. Should be within a few tenths of system voltage.

Pump itself requires a pressure gauge and some fittings. Install a tee in series with the hose going to the front of the fuel rail, and connect to gauge. Inexpensive and highly accurate gauge can be purchased here, or crappy gauges can be had for a few dollars more from CT or similar. Fuel pressure should be 35-45 PSI at idle, 40-50 at cruise, and ~10PSI more with the vacuum line disconnected from the fuel pressure regulator aft the fuel rail.

miatamike203 08-12-2009 07:48 PM

Just check to make sure spark is good and its constant but first check you fuel pressure coming from the pump.

1redcanuck 08-12-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 441945)

Filter is easy- change it. Don't even think about it, just replace the damn thing. You know you never have before. It's time.

Filter has less than 10,000km on it. I changed it while trying to solve a very erratic CAS issue.

Joe Perez 08-12-2009 08:03 PM

You are thinking about it. This violates the rule which we have laid out. :D

1redcanuck 08-12-2009 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 441951)
You are thinking about it. This violates the rule which we have laid out. :D


Sorry Joe. I promise it will never happen again!

1redcanuck 08-24-2009 07:25 PM

Ok I still have not had any time to diagnose my problem, but I have a question. Should the stock pump be OK with my setup, or should I go to a Walbro 190 hp?

Thanks

Zarniwoop42 08-25-2009 12:43 AM

be sure to check the electrical connections before you buy a pump. Mine failed because the harness on top of the tank assembly fried itself for some reason. I ended up switching to a used 1.8 tank because mazda wanted 400 dollars for a new assembly.

magnamx-5 08-25-2009 12:56 AM

check to see if you are getting flow through the exhaust system i had a clogged cat do the same thing to our 96.

1redcanuck 09-12-2009 10:52 AM

Update. It's not the pump, filter, fuse or exhaust:vash:.

Faeflora 09-12-2009 11:51 AM

What happens if you get the car running and manually rev it by pulling the throittle open with your hand on the cable or arm thingy? Do you hear it open and close? Did you check ur spark? I didn't see in the thread if you had or not.


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