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rider384 04-26-2010 10:31 PM

Does such a device exist?
 
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I have a nice set of BBS RAs that I'm looking to stick on my Miata. The only problem is that my current studs don't stick out far enough to get ANY safe thread on... Probably half of a conventional nut, at best.

So, I'm looking for... Fuck, how do I describe this...

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The "proposed device" is threaded on the inside and snugly fits the wheel stud, though not nearly as "puffy" as a conventional nut, with the hex head on the outside. Kind of like a cap on a bottle of water, only much longer and inflated at the end to hold the wheel on.

I don't really know how to describe it any better, does such a thing exist if you get what I'm talking about?

Techsalvager 04-26-2010 10:33 PM

I would suggest getting extended studs instead

rider384 04-26-2010 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Techsalvager (Post 563242)
I would suggest getting extended studs instead

100 bucks all around, and if it's safe I'd just assume run a 25 dollar solution.

EDIT: Much like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catal...CAsQ8wIwATgK#p
Anyone run these before?

boileralum 04-26-2010 10:44 PM

They make other narrow lugnuts, often called "tuner lugs" that major autoparts stores carry. You need to make sure that whatever lugnut you are using has the same taper as the holes on your wheels.

Braineack 04-26-2010 10:55 PM

splined lug nuts.

Reverend Greg 04-26-2010 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Techsalvager (Post 563242)
I would suggest getting extended studs instead

All of this....If you run an extended lug nut like those in the link,it will only make the problem worse,enertia will cause them to work loose faster.
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Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-26-2010 10:57 PM

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saint_foo 04-27-2010 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Reverend Greg (Post 563258)
All of this....If you run an extended lug nut like those in the link,it will only make the problem worse,enertia will cause them to work loose faster.
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Huh? I don't see how inertia would cause an extended lug nut to loosen. First of all, you're not factoring in material, thermal expansion, heat dissipation, contact patch, pitch, etc. of both the stud and the lug nut. There's so much that you can factor in, that I honestly don't know how you can state that inertia will loosen them.

Also, you can factor in when the lugs were put on. Was it immediately after a series of hot runs in an autox/track situation?

Reverend Greg 04-27-2010 10:53 AM

Well...You would have the larger portion as far away from the contact of the few threads that are holding it as the weight can be,causing the nut/stud to deflect.Coupled with vibration,Loose nut.I deal with fasteners all day long,Thats what would happen,you need to have at least 1.5x the dia. of the threads sticking out the other side of the nut or engaged in a fastener.Next time try a little more polite tone.Oh Btw that would be inertia
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kotomile 04-27-2010 11:19 AM

Extended studs or your next thread is "Guys, my wheels came off on the highway".

saint_foo 04-27-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Reverend Greg (Post 563513)
Well...You would have the larger portion as far away from the contact of the few threads that are holding it as the weight can be,causing the nut/stud to deflect.Coupled with vibration,Loose nut.I deal with fasteners all day long,Thats what would happen,you need to have at least 1.5x the dia. of the threads sticking out the other side of the nut or engaged in a fastener.Next time try a little more polite tone.Oh Btw that would be inertia
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Sorry if I came across as impolite. Humble apologies.

I'm picturing extended studs w/ tapered "tuner lugs" (i.e., those that can reach into those pain-in-the-butt openings on fancy wheels. A lot of the tuner lugs are longer than the stock "acorn nuts", giving a longer length of contact thread patch.

I think we're both in agreement, I was just picturing extended studs + tuner lugs.

miata2fast 04-27-2010 02:57 PM

I know that some sanctioning race bodies require a longer stud with appropriate lug nuts. I thought the reason was to have more threads contacting the nut, and so inspectors could see the stud. I find it hard to believe that having a longer stud would not be safe, as long as all components fit properly.

cASe SenSiTive 04-29-2010 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by rider384 (Post 563244)
100 bucks all around, and if it's safe I'd just assume run a 25 dollar solution.

EDIT: Much like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catal...CAsQ8wIwATgK#p
Anyone run these before?

The nuts in that link are for drag race wheels like Weld 5 stars or Draglites.
http://www.crossracingproducts.com/P...-90-755344.jpg

Reverend Greg 04-29-2010 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by saint_foo (Post 563702)
Sorry if I came across as impolite. Humble apologies.

I'm picturing extended studs w/ tapered "tuner lugs" (i.e., those that can reach into those pain-in-the-butt openings on fancy wheels. A lot of the tuner lugs are longer than the stock "acorn nuts", giving a longer length of contact thread patch.

I think we're both in agreement, I was just picturing extended studs + tuner lugs.

Sorry Myself I was a little bitchy that day...My cubscouts are kickin' My ass
Longer studs should be a required thing on any Boosted Miata,IMO.
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