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Godless Commie 08-15-2011 10:01 PM

Don't need no stinkin' gauges...
 
I used to have gauges in the center eyeball vents, but you can only have two of them there..
Then, I wanted a couple more, and realized the car would look like a friggin' carnival ride with all those gauges. Not to mention the fact that it would attract unwanted attention.
So, this has been my project for the past couple of weeks:

I now have 8 "gauges" in a single din display panel...


Godless Commie 08-15-2011 10:03 PM

And, here's how I set it up:


Godless Commie 08-15-2011 10:15 PM

4 Attachment(s)
I got the display panel and the controller (more on that later) as a kit.
Comes with standard push buttons, but I found some cool metal ones, with green LEDs built in. I simply used resistors (not a pwm) to dim the LEDs to my liking, and the result was satisfactory.
For the panel, I took measurements, and had a bunch of plexiglass panels laser cut.
I drilled countersunk holes in one panel so I could attach the display with screws, and then I just glued a second panel on top of it to cover the screws, for a clean look.

There are 8 parameters you can choose to be displayed, and you can take logs as you wish via a serial cable.

The control box is located right by my left knee, secured with double sided tape on the back of the dash trim:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313460919

Here is a "wider" shot, to give a better idea:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313460919

Godless Commie 08-15-2011 10:20 PM

There are audible and visual warnings, as well as a shift light.

I set up all temps in Celsius, pressure in psi, and vacuum in in/hg. That's what I am used to.

The whole thing cost just about 300 bucks - I already had a WB, and an EGT probe.


Just wanted to share.. Thought it could come in handy for someone like me who does not want their car to look like a carnival ride..
And I can log it all..

yellowihss 08-15-2011 10:49 PM

Links to where you got everything?

Godless Commie 08-15-2011 10:52 PM

http://www.maxigauges.com/

cpolly69 08-15-2011 11:00 PM

i have to say the end results look pretty good but if you run a ms you can just buy that megaviewer thing and it does the same thing w/out all that extra setup
you just plug it into the box (from what i understand)
also, all that info down there is awesome but it's out of your peripheral vision - so if you are trying to glance over and see your afr or boost at wot for just a micro sec, you are now looking down and possibly crashing.....

richyvrlimited 08-16-2011 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by cpolly69 (Post 760037)
i have to say the end results look pretty good but if you run a ms you can just buy that megaviewer thing and it does the same thing w/out all that extra setup
you just plug it into the box (from what i understand)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suXOJ...eature=related
also, all that info down there is awesome but it's out of your peripheral vision - so if you are trying to glance over and see your afr or boost at wot for just a micro sec, you are now looking down and possibly crashing.....

Godless Commies setup is far far superior to MegaLogViewer.

I know I have a MLV and it's not very good.

GC, that's a great job and a very clean install (which seems to be par for the course with you!)

splzero 08-17-2011 05:20 PM

thats awesome to have all those gauges in a Din spot!

Godless Commie 08-17-2011 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by richyvrlimited (Post 760126)
Godless Commies setup is far far superior to MegaLogViewer.

I know I have a MLV and it's not very good.

GC, that's a great job and a very clean install (which seems to be par for the course with you!)

Thank you. I try.

Godless Commie 08-17-2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by cpolly69 (Post 760037)
also, all that info down there is awesome but it's out of your peripheral vision - so if you are trying to glance over and see your afr or boost at wot for just a micro sec, you are now looking down and possibly crashing.....

Actually,no.

There are warnings for everything you want to display there. If you are reaching a threshold you have set up for, say, the coolant temp, a loud beep and bright LED comes on and the screen flashes the (for example) the coolant temp...
There are two warning thresholds for oil pressure; one for overall pressure level, another one for 3500 RPM and above.
There's also a shift light.

Also, if I had eight gauges spread all over the car, keeping an eye on them would require an assistant. And, that would be my wife.
Then I would have no need for any gauges. She does not let me go over 60 mph when she is in the car.

Every once in a while I pull up the AFR screen and watch that for abnormalities, that's all. Stays pretty much in the 12s under boost, and all's good.

budget racer 08-17-2011 09:03 PM

very awesome. i wish i had the time...or the ambition....or the intelligence....to do something like this.

thegrapist 08-17-2011 10:13 PM

Is there a link to buy this? I can't read whatever language it's in.

Thanks!

samwu8k 08-18-2011 01:23 AM

great work!

concealer404 08-18-2011 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by thegrapist (Post 760857)
Is there a link to buy this? I can't read whatever language it's in.

Thanks!

What he said, although i admit that i haven't tried Google translator yet.

Godless Commie 08-18-2011 05:10 PM

The site happens to be in Turkish.
OK then, I will translate and paste the website content here.

For the record, I have no affiliation with the guy who builds and sells the display kits.

Godless Commie 08-18-2011 07:44 PM

18 Attachment(s)
* MaxiDisplay II *





What is MaxiDisplay, what does it do..

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

MaxiDisplay displays a total of 8 important parameters on the LCD screen and provides warnings - both audible and visual – at levels set by the user.

Since MaxiDisplay communicates directly with the sensors, the response is instantaneous. The optional Windows based software allows the user to display live data on a computer screen, and logs can be taken, as well.

MaxiDisplay is designed, programmed and manufactured by Hakan Caliskan.

Customization of the MaxiDisplay is possible to a certain extent, the intro screen may also be customized.

Please read the following:
Since the product is semi-custom in nature, delivery takes up to 3-4 days.


Kit Contents:
* Main control Unit
* LCD Screen and ribbon cable
* LEDs and Buttons (Red LED for alarm, Blue LED for the shift light)
* Yellow LED (used in certain applications, not available in every package. Used for fuel gauge, etc.)
* Coolant temp sensor (provided with the kit, free of charge, if needed)
* Oil temp sensor (provided with the kit, free of charge, if needed)
* Rs-232 serial connection cable (optional)
* Windows logging software (optional)
* User and installation manual



Pricing:
4*20 Normal LCD: $260 plus s/h. Outside measurements: 9.8cm x 6cm
4*20 Large LCD: $280 plus s/h. Outside measurements: 14.6cm x 6.2cm
4*20 Huge LCD: $330 plus s/h. Outside measurements: 18.2cm x 9cm


OPTION 1: Serial Log cable and Windows software $15
*as long as Option 2 is not selected serial out is present. Option 1 is for the serial cable and software.

OPTION 2: A relay controlled output instead of the serial out $ 35
Examples for Option 2: NOS CONTROL OUTPUT, INTERCOOLER SPRAY OUTPUT, FAN CONTROL, etc, etc…
* The ability to run the fan(s) or water spray over a certain temp and rpm level.
* The ability to activate NOS over a certain boost level + rpm and TPS value.
* The ability to activate exhaust bypass over a certain level of boost + rpm.

* Installation is not included.
* Guaranteed for 2 years.


What information is available with MaxiDisplay ?
NOTE: MaxiDisplay does not communicate with the ECU OBDII port. It communicates directly with the sensors.

The following information may be displayed in a fast and accurate manner:
Oil Pressure (oilP)
Oil Temp (oilT)
Intake air temp (Ait)
Intercooler temp (Ict)
Intercooler Efficiency% (Ice) (Input and output should be monitored simultaneously)
Coolant temp (Wts)
Rpm (Rpm)
Exhaust Temp (Egt)
Air-fuel wideband (Afr)
Boost-Vacuum (Map)
Throttle position (Tps)
İnjector duty cycle (Duty)
Volts (Batt)
Outside temp (OutT)
Fuel Pressure (FuelP)
Serial out (Datalog)
Speed in certain applications (Speed)
Fuel gauge in certain applications (Fuel) (float)

*MaxiDisplay has 8 inputs, excluding the serial out. The user needs to choose the desired inputs from the list. (Please contact me for your preferences)



Alarms can be defined:
* Alarms are important. Think about it: we should be looking ahead at full throttle, instead of the gauges. You can only catch a glimpse of the gauges either when you just get on, or off the gas. So, what happens in between?
The pistons of a 4 cylinder engine move up and down 100 times a second at 6000 rpm. This should give you an idea how little time you have to react in case something goes wrong.
No additional cost for the alarms.

2 or 3 LEDs and simultaneous audible alarms are used for:
Egt Alarm,
Shift Light,
Boost Alarm,
Coolant temp, Oil temp, Oil pressure alarms, etc...



Sensors:
* Oil and Coolant temp sensors come with the kit.
* Act, Oil pressure, EGT probe (if needed for the setup) should be purchased separately.
* Wideband sensor and its controller should be purchased separately.
Example: Innovate LC-1 wideband, AEM wideband (with their respective controllers)
* Data such as Rpm, Tps, Duty Cycle and Boost (Map) are collected from the sensors on the engine. No additional sensors are required for these functions.

In cases where the vehicle is not equipped with a MAP sensor, that should be purchased separately, as well, to read boost.
We try to use all the existing sensors to save money for the user.




LCD dimensions:

4*20 Normal LCD
Outside measurements: 9.8cm x 6cm
Active Display Measurements: 7.6cm x 2.6cm

4*20 Large LCD
Outside measurements:14.6cm x 6.2cm
Active Display Measurements:12.5cm x 4.3cm

4*20 Huge LCD
Outside measurements: 18.2cm x 9cm
Active Display Measurements: 14.7cm x 6.5cm

normal, buyuk (large) and kocaman (huge) LCD displays:

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/6884/ccch.png



Delivery:
Maxidisplay is shipped within 3-4 days.
Custom orders may take longer.



Examples:
Please see http://www.maxigauges.com/ar-ge.html for sample pictures and videos.

Normal LCD

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066



2*24 red LCD (vtec)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

Huge LCD dashboard, vtec

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

Large LCD, Subaru gc8

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

SOFTWARE:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

Sample boost graph:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1313711066

Contact me here, I will translate the messages for Hakan Caliskan.
Again, I have no affiliation with the manufacturer, nor any financial gain for posting this info here. I just like the product.

thegrapist 08-18-2011 09:57 PM

Thanks dude.

So uhh how do I buy one? Link? e-mail? distributor?

Maxiq4 09-21-2011 10:42 AM

hi friends
sorry for late

Im manufacturer
my name is hakan
If you have detail question I can answer it.

web: www.maxigauges.com
email: hakan@maxigauges.com
msn & email: maxigauges@hotmail.com
http://www.maxigauges.com/MaxiDisplay_eng.pdf


thanks to translation -> @Godless Commie

matthewdesigns 09-21-2011 11:15 AM

@ Godless: Thanks for all that info and taking the time to do the translation, and the details on your install. Looks fantastic.

@ Maxiq4: Great product!


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