Dynoed @ 136whp
 

as requested my car made 136whp in mid april i believe, my car is mostly stock. All that was done to it was, a filter replacing the whole air box assembly, gutted cat, no muffler, and i changed the crystal to allow my car to rev higher. the power was made @ 8000 rpm indicated. That is honestly all that was done to it that i know of. the only difference between it now and then is that i put the muffler back on.

This thread needs more dyno charts. FWIW my car made 175.3 HP stock. I don't have the dyno sheet to prove it, but you guys believe me right? :jerkit:

Do you have a dyno plot? I've NEVER seen a miata make power at 8K. Seriously. They all drop off after 6500, 6800, etc.

I do, the only prob is that they are down in Eastman Ga in my file and im back in Carlton Ga for the labor day weekend. ill get them posted up asap.

If this is true... sell your engine to a pro spec miata team for good $$$'s

and like i told Pat, i dont even think it adds up.

My bet is 136hp at the motor, or the dyno operator fudges the #'s. No way a semi stock motor will make 136 at the wheels. That is close to 170hp at the motor. I had a blower w/9 psi, water injection, a timing controller and I dyno'd 150.1 rwhp on a dyno dynamics. That is about 172rwhp on a dynojet since they are bogus. Use that reverse logic and you are around 116rwhp.

Redrum, you got hosed by your dyno operator... plain and simple. Its pretty common with a stock car and a motivated operator to tell a customer exactly what he wants to hear... especially if the customer has extremely high expectations of his "mods". The stock Miata intake system is extemely well designed and swapping to an aftermarket CAI or deleting the stock airbox is worth very little. Pulling your muffler might make you a pony or two up high, but is probably hurting a bit of low-end torque. And if you'll seriously look at some of the FM dyno-plots in the other thread, you'll see that Miata's make peak hp by about 6500rpm. NO WAY you made peak power at 8k.

Even though Miatas aren't dyno'd stock all that often, any competent operator would know the cars don't make that much power stock. $15k Rebello Spec Miata motors make that much, but not your stock(ish) one. Sorry hoss, I wouldn't again advertise that you made 136whp on a stock motor unless you want to get shit on again. Do yourself a favor and take it to a place with a Dynojet and pay the $50 for 3pulls. Tell the operator you want the uncorrected and corrected numbers, and don't go back to that other shop.

It was a dyno day that he was having, all the other cars where making what they should have been making. and i was expected 110 at the most.

ask him what correction # he was using...why/how did you pull to 8k?

I get the feeling that no matter how many people tell you otherwise, you're still going to believe it makes 136whp. Can we put this to rest and chalk it up to so some "dyno foolery" or are you putting your foot down?

I need a shop and an eddy brake....I'd be rich and sell a lot of air filters and exhausts.

Post dyno Plot.

Who cares how much horsepower his NA Miata is? I think my car makes that to the wheels when i'm first turning it over. CRANKING HP FTW!

ban?

i was pulling to 8k because we were running it from i think 40 mph to 90 mph or so and if i remember correctly it was only corrected standard temperature and pressure.
and ill stake my skeptical claim of 136whp. like i said, that was alot more than i was expecting, although i would like to go to another dyno and get another pull to confirm my numbers or disprove my numbers.

and once i get back to Eastman Ga ill post my sheets asap.

and no to the ban.

there is no way it makes that much power.

You can't have both.

I'm finding it hard to believe that in the presence of OVERWHELMING evidence you won't let this go. You appear downright dense. As I said, the $15k Rebello Spec Miata engines make that much. If you think somebody stuck one of those in your car, then you should post it up HERE immediately, and re-invest the proceeds into your '01. Otherwise, you should let this thread go.

I tell you what, go over to Dynolab in Marietta on a Thurs. night and hand over your $50 and see what happens. They're accurate for getting numbers.


8K? You do know what is required to make a BP rev to 8k, right? I want to see you take a camera out to your car and video the tachometer goign to 8,000 rpm.
I'm willing to bet that $50 that someone didn;t have all the settings right when you dyno'ed. Hell, I was playing around on a dyno and put in one little wrong command and went from 115rwhp/112tq to 145rwhp and 300tq lol.

There was a guy on the pointy board about a year or so ago that dyno'd at 130ish rwhp on a stock 1.6, everyone pushed him to get on a dynojet and he made like 106, it was a really huge thread, I'll try to find it.

you dont know jack shit. :fawk::noob:

It don't take shit to make a BP rev to 8K. A crystal swap is all it takes. My motor has turned 8K many many many times. But it doesn't make any power up there. Doesn't mean it won't do it though. All those people that think valves float before 8K on a 99' motor are WRONG!

crystal swap also doesn't mean the torque curve gets shifted 1500RPM. ;)


http://www.invisiblesun.org/MiataBlo...UMod_MaxHP.jpg



peak at 8k my left foot :rofl:

dammit Pat, you're supposed to let him answer why it's able to run to "8k"

hey redrumracer how about you and I go to the drags to see how that 136rwhp runs? you go to the MM meets right?

Thats why i put "remember correctly" but no we did do runs based on mph as opposed to rpm's
i already knew why it was able to do that, im the one who replaced the crystal
and no i dont go to MM meets, i dont even know what that is. my best time was a 16.27@85.73 mph.


oh and i am more than willing to put my car back on a dyno to see what a different one says.

OP, get bent. You didn't make 136whp, you didn't make peak power at 8000rpm, and at 90mph you're only turning 7600rpm anyway so you didn't even pull to 8k, if you stop at 90mph like you say you did. Feel free to stand by your bullshit, but expect to stand by a ban as well. Go confirm your numbers on a properly calibrated Dynojet.

The last guy who gave some total bullshit figure like 136whp with intake and exhaust got called out, and me and one other guy Paypalled him $20 each to pay for a re-dyno with the agreement that we would get double our money back if he didn't match his previous numbers.

Easiest $40 I ever made.

but it doesnt bother me if my car makes less than 136whp, hell as i already stated, im skeptical about it myself, always have been, but at the same time those were the numbers i was given when it was dynoed, i even asked the operator if those where at the crank or the wheels a couple times and he told me it was at the wheels each time.

So don't brag about making 136 when you 1) are skeptical about making the power anyway and 2) you didn't actually make 136

136whp:bang: WOW, and to think all his (non-miata) friends probably believe him.

1) this thread was made as a request per patsmx5
2) until dynoed otherwise i'll stand by my 136whp. when i do dyno it again ill correct my stand.

LOL, Stand by it dude. We all know the truth as it is.

FWIW I did PM him telling him to start a new thread as we were quickly running away with someone else's thread as me and others questioned his comment.

good idea, the other thread was getting hijack'd

I would suggest you stand by it on some other forum, then. Horseshit dyno numbers and the stubborn blind-folded imbeciles that stand behind them aren't welcome here.

Exactly how am i stubborn? I agree i think my number is high, but until dynoed otherwise i'll stand by my 136whp, that was on a dyno that other people where making CORRECT numbers on. i made sure my vehicle was intentionally not the first one.

maybee you have some fujiracing parts on your car:giggle:

i wouldnt have a clue, the only performance part that i got for the car that i know about was your old header. which my parents lost the end piece to it. :cry:

EDIT: i just looked at Fuji racing and there prices are horrible.

oh, that was you. glad you made use of it. perhaps there was hidden power in the OBX header

Thats pretty pathetic dude. Even Hillary gave up sooner.

if your going to quote then quote the whole thing and not just that parts that make you happy.

1. Already demonstrated ad nauseum.
2. It is extremely high, all thing being considered, about 20whp over every other single '01 with those mods ever tested against the universally accepted "standard" of the Dynojet.
3. You might want to hold your breath, cross your fingers, and stomp your foot really hard on that first pull.
4/5. So what does that mean... is this trying to say that because the other cars that went before you that day all made expected power that it validates your car making 20whp more than any other stock(ish) '01 ever?

^Did I do OK at dissecting your entire post this time? I'll try to be more thorough from now on. And in case you're a visual learner... try this:

yes that is better, and why do you keep saying 01? its a 99. also keep in mind that it is stock that i know of. this car had mods done before i got it.

My bad, '99... makes little difference.

From that dyno plot, the blue lines are an '01 and the red ones are a '99. The '01 makes a pinch more power betwee 4500 and 5500 from the VVT, but it's not significant.

And as for the PO's mods... I'm sure he didn't accidentally forget to tell you about some "secret" part on the car... like a hidden auto-sensing 25shot NOS system that only activates when it thinks it's on a dyno.

Come on man... can we end this thing?

i bought it from a dealer and they bought it from an auction somewhere in NC. and yes it can be ended.

yeah maybe the dude has a 20 shot of nos hes not telling us about..

yea i have a sneaky pete hidden under the seat like vin diesel

Ban.

i apologize
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Sorry Redrum, your reputation is made here, and you'll never fully recover from how big a douchebag this thread makes you look. You might as well head over to cr.net and join that crowd. I guarantee you'll be welcomed with open arms.

So how about some of us chip in a couple dollars and send him over to dynolab before waving the banstick?

I'd like to see what the "magic engine" is really making and I'd like to see his 136whp dyno plot.

My guess is that he's making 115whp tops.

I've seen '99 miatas make 124whp with minor bolt-ons, on a dynojet, and i thought that was too high. I was present at the dyno run.

Here is a friend's NA 99 with bolt-ons at the April 5th Northeast Dyno Day

wasnt this same claim on m.net a while back?

yes it was.

So when are you going to a real dyno to shut us all up and prove you're right?

as soon as i get a chance. not exactly the easiest thing to do when you have school all day, but i am more than willing to go to a dyno and be proven wrong-or-right

C'mon man, admit it: your setup making 136 RWHP @ 8000 RPM is as feasible as cold fusion.

You'd make an excellent defense attorney though.

I'll pay for your re-dyno, provided I get double my money back if you don't make 136whp with peak power at 8000rpm.

I'm down in warner robins, ga...what dyno shop are you using in eastman?