stop being sarcastic mr Fm. tobacco and flour isn't metal. and neither is brake quiet goo.

The one manly thing about our ------y-ass cars is the brake squeal and you're trying to get rid of it? :magna:

Sarcasm is all I have left! But I do think you're a lot better off with copper than alum if you can swing it. The brake quiet stuff does scare me a bit for thermal reasons....

heh heh

the higher melting point might be useful too I suppose

Abe, I'm sorry for making fun of your brake squeal last Sunday. I didn't realize it would drive you to this. :rolleyes:

Hah! Yes...

My friend's in town for the brewer's convention. Not opening a couple stouts a bit early (tonight or maybe sat morning) is going to be tough. Hmmm, you should come down tonight, it'll be a night of bad video games and liquor.... Maybe even a movie, who knows what the night holds.



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Anyway, I made a serious effort to fix the brakes last night. I took a long hard look at the car, then popped the hood and started messing with my aweful boost control. And I still need to do some mundanes like changing the oil.

Also, if you hook your barometer to where it can see boost pressure, funny things happen. Just an FYI.

Does anyone have any advice on chamfering the pads? Matt, you don't run any grease/glue, just the alum pads, right?

First report:
Copper sheets seem to work, some. It took a long time to make the car stop right (after compressing all the calipers). It still feels a little soft. It squeaks much less, but a lot more than none.

Ok, yeah, the squeaking with my copper sheets is way better than before. Sometimes it'll squeak, but it's rare. It took many very hard stomps to get the copper to behave and allow the car to stop using all four brakes. It still feels just a bit soft, but it is so quiet. Feels like it needs more leg to stop, probably I ought to bleed it all anyway.

But quiet and no anti-squeak in sight. Now we'll see how it holds up, but I think it's squeaking less and less as time goes on.

Thanks Mr. Y8s. :-) You da man...

you didn't use anti-squeal? between the pads and shims?

I would suggest getting a louder exhaust to combat your brake squeaking problem :)

Nope. Well, there's the backing that comes on the pads, I didn't take it off. It was completely worn away where the pistons pushed. I'd post pics but they are at home.

OH!!! By "home" I mean, in my glovebox. bbiaf.

Oh, sorry, looks like I'll have to fire the photographer - he didn't get any shots of the back of the pads, so you can't see what was there. But here's the pads and the shims:

http://abefm.smugmug.com/photos/282942909_UPanB-M.jpg

And here's installed:
http://abefm.smugmug.com/photos/282943206_tPxwh-M.jpg

More pics/comments:
http://abefm.smugmug.com/gallery/476...82942999_FzuFG

abe what compound are you running? super dust?

Super clean-it-once-a-year I think. :-)

Er, they are the "smart pad" compound, but I don't know if they are SP10 or SP20, they only had one kind when I got them.

They are nice, the first stop is.. reduced performance, but not scary at all. If you've been going 80 on the freeway for an hour, the first stop is a little slow since they had time to cool, but there's nothing major involved in getting them working, in normal driving they are just much better than stock.

if you keep having problems, I'll sacrifice myself and offer $50 + shipping for the wilwoods :giggle:

seriously, next pads, get the Q compound to run on the street. use the B for the track. listen to whatever opinion you like best in terms of swapping pads back and forth. the Q are just about dreamy on the street. very easy on dust and squeal to the point of being acceptable.

Take them off and send em over here.. I'll send you my brakes in return. ;)

I'll live with horrid squeel... my suspension already clanks.. :)

I may very well try that. This kit I got came with the smart pads, I believe. Or maybe I ordered them, whatever it was, the first time I was racing an NSX down a 5 mile mountain, and I got introduced to turn-or-die-cause-stopping's-not-an-option I decided something better was called for. :-)

I did notice the outer pads wearing much different than the inners, so I swapped them, it seemed to be perfect timing actually.

Still, with the shims in there, I'm pretty happy overall. I'm sure I could live with better-than-metal-masters and worse than what I've got.

I am not sure what compound pads you use, but try going with a ceramic pad set if you are using metalic. You can also try carbon metalic. Make sure you don't have any lateral runout on the rotors. Another thing would be to make sure your caliper slides aren't sticking.

someone didn't look at the photos.