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Old 02-13-2020, 02:40 PM
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I'm finally getting to a point where I can start reassembling my Miata project. My new Innovative polyurathane engine mounts were delivered yesterday and I noticed when I test fitted them that both of the mouting points on my subframe are slotted a opposed to having one with two small holes and one with a slot. I have attached pics for clarity (shiny one is my subframe, the dirty one is an image I grabbed from a google search), but my I'm wondering if this is a safety concern. If I ensure that both mounts are sitting at the bottom of the slot will I be fine? Do I need to switch to AWR mounts with the little "pins" at the top and bottom? I just want to be sure my engine isn't going to move around after I bolt it in as it would defeat the purpose of the pricey engine mounts I chose. Thanks in advance for your guidance.



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You've got yourself a "customized" subframe.
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LOL
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Wow. Gotta get me one of them there.
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So I'm guessing I need to source a new one? Also, I painted because the PO had spilled brake fluid on it and most of the factory finish was gone. I knew this build was going to be a challenge, but I didn't expect to find things like this. I've lost count of things I've had to replace due to the negligence or stupidity of the PO.
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Is that subframe out of a NB
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Originally Posted by matrussell122
Is that subframe out of a NB
Anything is possible at this point. Lol. But I pulled it off my 97 NA.
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Just dump it and find a subframe out of a NB. You will also need a NB steering rack but you will be better off in the end.
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Thanks for tip. New subframe it is.
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After having done a bunch of engine installs, can sure see how a slot on both sides would have been helpful - genius!
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Yeah it might save you upwards of 5 seconds!
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I respectfully disagree. When mated to the tranny, it never once (out of 6 times in last 18 months) dropped down into the hole and slot without going thru the wheel well, and putting on the mounts after the motor was already in place.
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Originally Posted by Sailor Jerry
So I'm guessing I need to source a new one? Also, I painted because the PO had spilled brake fluid on it and most of the factory finish was gone. I knew this build was going to be a challenge, but I didn't expect to find things like this. I've lost count of things I've had to replace due to the negligence or stupidity of the PO.
You definitely need a new one. That one has modulus deficiencies now

In all seriousness, it's probably got other issues (bent, etc) that caused the PO to **** with it. Not worth your time to use.
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I would probably still use it. Only one of the layers isn’t slotted from the factory.
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Its fine, You can keep running it. If the previous owner has some shims under the mounts to raise the engine slightly, you have slot the subframe. No strength lost
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