General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Fuel Pressure Regulator Works Backwards From Intended

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-16-2019, 08:12 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Keuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Novi-ish, Michigan
Posts: 67
Total Cats: 4
Question Fuel Pressure Regulator Works Backwards From Intended

Set up a FPR on my '90 motor, but as the title suggests I get backwards results. As I increase the pressure, the motor gets less fuel. I have it set up as required; from the rail to an in/out port, and bottom port to the tank return. Still have stock rail with stock FPR if that makes a difference.


I know Ive got the lines correct, because when I pinch the return line after the FPR the pressure increases.
Keuzy is offline  
Old 02-16-2019, 08:26 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
gooflophaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 997
Total Cats: 156
Default

How do you know the motor gets less fuel? Are you sure you've got it plumbed correctly?

.. wait.. do you have this regulator running from the tank before the rail?

It should go tank - rail entry - rail exit - in FPR - return FPR - return to tank.
gooflophaze is offline  
Old 02-16-2019, 08:32 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Keuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Novi-ish, Michigan
Posts: 67
Total Cats: 4
Default

Theres a direct relationship between the number on the pressure gauge and the number on the wideband display. Also the motor would tend to die after a (very lean) rev.

Ive checked the fuel lines from the pump to the rail, and verified visually just about 10 times that the line Im using is coming from the return side of the rail.

setup is tank->filter->rail in->rail out->FPR in/out->FPR return->tank
Keuzy is offline  
Old 02-16-2019, 10:36 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Keuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Novi-ish, Michigan
Posts: 67
Total Cats: 4
Default

One option I have to get around this is to use the FPR to convert to a returnless rail, but Id like to leave that as a last resort. I dont even know if the rail has the proper flow characteristics to make that happen. I'd like your thoughts on that as well.
Keuzy is offline  
Old 02-16-2019, 10:48 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
gooflophaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 997
Total Cats: 156
Default

The only thing that makes sense to me if you accidentally have it hooked up backwards - the return line is the most-forward hardline in the engine bay, source is behind that.
gooflophaze is offline  
Old 02-16-2019, 10:53 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Keuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Novi-ish, Michigan
Posts: 67
Total Cats: 4
Default

I'll make absolute confirmation that fuel is coming out of the correct hardline in the morning.
Keuzy is offline  
Old 02-17-2019, 02:06 AM
  #7  
afm
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
afm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 981
Total Cats: 508
Default

Originally Posted by Keuzy
Still have stock rail with stock FPR if that makes a difference.
Do you still have the stock FPR installed? If so, that will prevent the upstream AFPR from working.
afm is offline  
Old 02-17-2019, 08:30 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Keuzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Novi-ish, Michigan
Posts: 67
Total Cats: 4
Default

Well the trickle charger took it's sweet time, but I was able to confirm the lines are correct.

Originally Posted by afm
Do you still have the stock FPR installed? If so, that will prevent the upstream AFPR from working.
The regulator builds pressure fine, I'm not sure I understand the science behind this.
Anything I can do about it without getting an aftermarket rail?
Keuzy is offline  
Old 02-17-2019, 11:54 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
gooflophaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 997
Total Cats: 156
Default

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-RACIN...Vh6I:rk:1:pf:0

Looks like the one Braineack used. https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-pe...erience-57044/

There's another one $5 cheaper if you look for "mazda fpr adapter". I ran a dual feed rail so.. ymmv.
gooflophaze is offline  
Old 02-18-2019, 11:26 AM
  #10  
Retired Mech Design Engr
iTrader: (3)
 
DNMakinson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Seneca, SC
Posts: 5,009
Total Cats: 857
Default

Originally Posted by afm
Do you still have the stock FPR installed? If so, that will prevent the upstream AFPR from working.
Some others have left the original FPR and added one after it, but I don't remember who, or how they plumbed it.

Keuzy, if you want to use -AN connector to replace the stock FPR, the correct P/N is FT061-001. The one shown on-line for Miatas, in various places, WILL NOT FIT.
DNMakinson is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lincoln Logs
Engine Performance
1
10-14-2012 05:20 AM
g_reichow
Engine Performance
11
08-11-2012 02:46 PM
Faeflora
Engine Performance
9
03-15-2011 02:47 PM
M-Tuned
Engine Performance
7
07-15-2010 11:17 PM
FHS
General Miata Chat
5
04-21-2007 10:54 PM



Quick Reply: Fuel Pressure Regulator Works Backwards From Intended



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:15 PM.