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Old 07-19-2006, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Gauges for day and night

Hi,

Just picked up my second miata. This one came with a Greddy turbo So far, I have no complaints except for the installed a/f and boost gauges. They are fine during daytime, but after dark I find them bright and annoying. I had to keep my hand over the a/f gauge because it was literally blinding. Do you have any recommendations on new gauges that (1) match a stock cluster, (2) are not too bright or even dimmable with the cluster, and (3) are accurate. Ideally, the a/f gauge would dim down when the lights come on, like most radios do when you turn the lights on.

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Just a thought on the dimming issue, you could wire the light in after the stock dimmer switch so that you could adjust the brightness of your current gauges.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:22 AM   #3
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Another thought on the dimming issue; pull the bulbs and see if you can get dimmer ones with the same base if you don't want to screw with the wiring.
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Thanks for the responses. I hadn't considered installing less intense bulbs... I'll get on that, but the biggest problem to me is not the background lighting, but the led markers on the a/f gauge. They're too bright at night because they don't dim down.
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the biggest problem to me is not the background lighting, but the led markers on the a/f gauge. They're too bright at night because they don't dim down.
Might want to just replace that gauge with something more useful. Granted a narrowband fed A/F gauge can show you really lean or rich, it's not really useful for any real tuning. Some people keep it for the pretty lights or modify it for a wideband hookup, but you'd probably get more info from another gauge such as water temp/oil temp/EGT/etc...
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a narrowband fed A/F gauge... not really useful for any real tuning.... but you'd probably get more info from another gauge such as water temp/oil temp/EGT/etc...
Agree here.

On the positive, you could sell the "A/F gauge" to pay for the new one.
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i wired my guage to the dimmer switch.

i popped the dimmer switch out of the dash, and put a multitester on each of the three wires coming out of it. by turning on the parking lights and adjusting the dimming ****, i found the one that adjusts. i tapped the lighting wire from the gauge into that wire.
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yea but if he dims the a/f guage the stock cluster gets lighter too.
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maybe window tint and just leave the daytime on during the day.but remember to turn off the lights or the battery dies.done that before.
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I wired up all my guages to the dimmer. The A/F guage has a switch to turn it on an off.

Location can also be to blame. If the A/F guage is in the A-Pillar move it to an eyeball vent or the center console.
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Thanks for the feedback fellas... seriously.

I decided that I will replace the existing a/f meter with an led readout for one with a standard needle.
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Will an A/F gauge with a standard needle respond fast enough? I too agree that a narrow band A/F gauge is not very useful while a wideband is perhaps the most useful gauge for tuning.
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I'm not trying to ***** my auction here because 10 million people are seeing it on Ebay right now BUT I just put my XD-16 A/F gauge up for auction at $80 less than what they normally cost. It may be a good option for you and at the price it is definitely a good deal.
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