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displacementreplacement 01-15-2007 01:35 AM

Honda radiator swap, corner weight question
 
Ok so on sat the plastic tank on top of my radiator cracked. It’s not major and I can still drive it but starting to get things wet under hood. I want to build a diy kit and I about had a heart attack when I saw what they were asking for radiators, stock around $200 and aftermarket(what I really want) around $500.

I was thinking and remembered my honda buddy bought a 2.5 in core radiator for his civic for $125. They are about half as wide as the stock miata piece. Got to looking and found plenty on ebay. I started thinking I could mount my IC next to it the way he did on his honda. Felt like a genius! Then I did some searching and found out that people had already done it. Now I just know it can be done and on the cheep!

My real question is about corner weight and as to which side I should mount my radiator. It is a stock 95 R and I weigh about 210lbs. I assume I should mount it on the passenger side but wanted to check with you guys first.

I should get a radiator this week sometime and will take pics and keep you guys updated with my progress.

m2cupcar 01-15-2007 05:10 PM

yes- pax side- but your IC is probably going to balance it out like one large radiator. So I'd lean towards making the pipe routing the priority- whatever makes it easiest.

displacementreplacement 01-15-2007 05:28 PM

Where in Atlanta are you located m2?

VRTSid 01-15-2007 05:32 PM

I was seriously considering this, with my fmic I was going to mount the civic just left (toward passenger side) of center and route my pipe on either side.

paladin5 01-15-2007 09:45 PM

The i/c-radiator idea sounds cool but if your looking for a cheap radiator www.car-part.com has new koyos for 110.00 that are for an auto car. Im pretty sure the radiators from automatic miatas have way more cooling capacity and are a direct replacement.

m2cupcar 01-15-2007 10:31 PM

Decatur.
It would be interesting to see how this works out vs. stick the IC in front of a full size rad.

akaryrye 01-16-2007 04:03 AM

heh, thought i posted earlier ... guess i didnt press send lol. Sounds like a really cool idea and it seems like ive heard of it being done before as well. like M2cupcar, I would be interested in how this setup would work vs. a traditional FMIC full radiator. Also, you could easily mount a fan over the IC core and have it running continuously while a second fan could turn on when radiator temps got too high.

RicanmiataRacer 01-16-2007 05:25 PM

Well a standard 1.8 honda radiator cools effieintly enough for a honda...why not a miata.

VRTSid 01-16-2007 05:25 PM

here is a shot of someone who did this with a probe IC and Honda Rad.
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/pictures/...31_74_full.jpg
more pics in my 1.6 gallery
http://jazz.sdsc.edu/photo/index.php...a/engines/1.6/

if you do a search on m.net for honda rad you should be able to find this guy, I think thats where I found it.



Originally Posted by RicanmiataRacer (Post 72264)
Well a standard 1.8 honda radiator cools effieintly enough for a honda...why not a miata.

from what Ive heard the honda's coolant route is more efficient (maybe most?) and the smaller rad works for that reason.

RicanmiataRacer 01-16-2007 05:32 PM

wich radiator was used in that build, a civic radiator?

displacementreplacement 01-31-2007 01:35 AM

update!
 
Here is my progress so far.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2558829

Notice that I built it all to hang in the factory hangers without drilling or cutting a single pice of my rare R.

Fritch 01-31-2007 10:11 AM

doesn't the fact that the A/C condensor is in the way really effect the efficiency of things? I really like the idea of this but feel that it would work a lot better without that thing blocking a lot of the air.

displacementreplacement 01-31-2007 10:15 AM

When I build my turbo ic setup the ic will have a fan behind it and my ac will still work. It will keep my intake pipes short and my car will be a little stealthy.

Fritch 01-31-2007 10:19 AM

any thought to maybe keeping some sort of insulating barrier between the 200* radiator and the cool IC so there isn't so much heat transfer?

displacementreplacement 01-31-2007 10:52 AM

no but thats a great idea

Fritch 01-31-2007 11:13 AM

just throwing out thoughts to help! I really do like this idea and you're right about keeping it very stealth since you won't even see the IC outside the car. Thats actually one thing I like about my car now without the IC, the total stealthness, however only 6psi is possible this way lol.

iluvtruenos 01-31-2007 11:33 AM

Can't you use two radiators, one for IC, one for an actual radiator? Or are the passages too big/small?

Fergus 01-31-2007 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Fritch (Post 77203)
just throwing out thoughts to help! I really do like this idea and you're right about keeping it very stealth since you won't even see the IC outside the car. Thats actually one thing I like about my car now without the IC, the total stealthness, however only 6psi is possible this way lol.

Why only 6PSI ? :eek4:

Fritch 01-31-2007 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Fergus (Post 77215)
Why only 6PSI ? :eek4:

because I have no intercooler at the moment and no water injection or anything else right now so I'm limited to 6psi

Fergus 01-31-2007 12:06 PM

Ah the same situation as myself !
I'm going to be getting an IC and some other extras this month :yippee:
Also going to be taking out the AC & PS if I can get the time :naughty:
This setup looks very good, a very nice & clean install. I really like the way the IC piping is small and neat.


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