Is this Ignition Map Retarded?
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This is from a recent dyno tune. Looks to me like it's pretty good out of boost but conservative in boost. Thoughts? Am I off-base?
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343668309 Car feels fast on the highway but a lot weaker than I expected down low. Spool seems slow as well. |
Looks a little week but not tragic or anything.
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Thanks. Doesn't feel tragic by any means but I thought the 2560 would have a bit more oomph on bottom when tuned properly.
I'm just trying to decide if my expectations were too high or if there is power on the table. I mean, I have old, hard, Kumho 711s on the car right now (to preserve my *specs pre-alignment) and it will chirp them in 1st gear but no fear of breaking traction in second. |
Looks like a good 4* more retarded than my "safe" basemaps.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 909514)
Looks like a good 4* more retarded than my "safe" basemaps.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 909514)
Looks like a good 4* more retarded than my "safe" basemaps.
Unfortunately the shop is pretty far away and I'm afraid to monkey with timing and not add fuel. Frankly, I don't have skills in this area - which is why I went to a shop in the first place. They seemed to have a clue, but their experience is largely Mitsu and Subie stuff. They have supposedly done a bunch of Spec Miatas but I'm probably 1 of only a couple turbos. I'll post the graph when I'm able to get a good pic or scan. Mustang dyno - 208hp/185tq. I was expecting closer to 200 ft. lbs., really. |
it looks retarded in cruise as well, but not by as much.
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It's rich in cruise, too. He set it up for 14.7 AFR. It's fine, I guess as an environmental consideration. Would be nice to get a little better mileage though.
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Wow, I had forgotten how aggravating it is to look at maps that aren't color coded. Just for my 2 cents, it seems on the low end compared to my tune as well.
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Originally Posted by soloracer
(Post 909512)
Thanks. Doesn't feel tragic by any means but I thought the 2560 would have a bit more oomph on bottom when tuned properly.
I'm just trying to decide if my expectations were too high or if there is power on the table. I mean, I have old, hard, Kumho 711s on the car right now (to preserve my *specs pre-alignment) and it will chirp them in 1st gear but no fear of breaking traction in second. There are other variables to consider like belt-stretch, CAS position (can you see 2-3* on the crank pully?), and manliness. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 909548)
Breaking tires loose on the throttle is another story.
Am I being too hung up on numbers, maybe? 185 ft. lbs. seems lame to me. Honestly I don't care much as long as it pushes me back in the seat a little! Not sure what you mean by 2-3* on crank pulley. I'm running the NB crank sensor/TSE wheel, so the timing should be pretty spot-on. Oh, and manliness?? We drive Miatas. Betta have yo' manliness together. |
Originally Posted by baron340
(Post 909532)
Wow, I had forgotten how aggravating it is to look at maps that aren't color coded. Just for my 2 cents, it seems on the low end compared to my tune as well.
solo, What AFR's are you running at? I this looks like a DSM'er timing map and I'm wondering if it has the 10something:1 afr to match. Not seen played with tuning any turbo miata's but coming from NA ones, the out of boost timing is very conservative like 8 deg off of what you;d run a similar manifold pressure and rpm NA. |
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