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cardriverx 09-14-2014 02:32 PM

1994 miata for the win ;)



Originally Posted by Chris GTO TT (Post 1167057)
This is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking of doing. I'm actually thinking of going back to a 1.6 with this kit simply for the ease of passing emissions on a regular basis.


natedawg 09-14-2014 04:03 PM

Nice to see these back on the market. Now to decide this or K swap.

emilio700 09-14-2014 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by natedawg (Post 1167155)
Nice to see these back on the market. Now to decide this or K swap.

Thats a tough call if you are mechanically adept and do not require CARB compliance. K swap costs more but can make about the same power.

Viewed as a $/whp question, the Rotrex comes out slightly ahead. Ease of install is no contest, in favor of Rotrex. Torque, I think a K24 can make 230lbs on gas which is about what we made on E85.

Then there is the possibility of bolting a C30-94 onto a K24. We're already looking at that as a future project. Maybe 400whp and 300lbs tq.

Chris GTO TT 09-14-2014 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by cardriverx (Post 1167144)
1994 miata for the win ;)

Yeah well I bought the whole car for $650:fawk:

k24madness 09-14-2014 07:38 PM

Are there any plans to release a C30-94 kit? With wastegate control that would really have a broad torque curve. Wide open it would be a monster.

emilio700 09-14-2014 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by k24madness (Post 1167181)
Are there any plans to release a C30-94 kit? With wastegate control that would really have a broad torque curve. Wide open it would be a monster.

No CARB version but the C30-94 bolts right up otherwise. It will be a simple drop down menu option on the race kits.

18psi 09-15-2014 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by Chris GTO TT (Post 1167180)
Yeah well I bought the whole car for $650:fawk:

Just don't tell them that you already have a 1.8 swapped car, and you're planning to swap back to 1.6.

I bet even Emilio will give you a hard time about that lol, just like I do every time we talk.

Heck, Scott will probably ban you if he finds out :giggle:

(PS: don't do it.)

Nagase 09-15-2014 03:32 AM


Then there is the possibility of bolting a C30-94 onto a K24. We're already looking at that as a future project. Maybe 400whp and 300lbs tq.
Really going to need a transmission solution at that point. Any plans beside the race only incremental upgrade of gears?

emilio700 09-15-2014 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 1167237)
Really going to need a transmission solution at that point. Any plans beside the race only incremental upgrade of gears?

We don't, no. We won't be pursuing a solution for the handful of Miata owners looking for 300lb capacity while retaining street manners for under $4k. There are more owners willing to run dogs and the K swap crew will add to that.

Agreed that the community could use a 300lb syncro box, it just won't be us doing it.

KMiata 09-17-2014 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1167169)
Then there is the possibility of bolting a C30-94 onto a K24. We're already looking at that as a future project. Maybe 400whp and 300lbs tq.

YES that is something we will eventually be test fitting too. You can make 400whp out of a $400 junkyard Accord motor with a lame header.

Chris GTO TT 09-17-2014 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1167222)
Just don't tell them that you already have a 1.8 swapped car, and you're planning to swap back to 1.6.

I bet even Emilio will give you a hard time about that lol, just like I do every time we talk.

Heck, Scott will probably ban you if he finds out :giggle:

(PS: don't do it.)

I'd rather spend time, money, and energy going to the track than having to mess around with too many emissions things.

Besides at least I'm planning on boosting the 1.6 where as i'd likely leave the 1.8 NA if I keep it.

MOABmiata 09-18-2014 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1167169)
Thats a tough call if you are mechanically adept and do not require CARB compliance. K swap costs more but can make about the same power.

Viewed as a $/whp question, the Rotrex comes out slightly ahead. Ease of install is no contest, in favor of Rotrex. Torque, I think a K24 can make 230lbs on gas which is about what we made on E85.

Then there is the possibility of bolting a C30-94 onto a K24. We're already looking at that as a future project. Maybe 400whp and 300lbs tq.

Weight also should be a factor. Superchargers aren't light, while the K swap removes something like 60lbs. Probably a 100lb difference over the front end between the two kits.

EO2K 09-18-2014 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by MOABmiata (Post 1168319)
Superchargers aren't light, while the K swap removes something like 60lbs. Probably a 100lb difference over the front end between the two kits.

Bro, do you even Rotrex? Shipping weight on my entire C30-74 kit was 39lbs

KMiata 09-18-2014 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by MOABmiata (Post 1168319)
Weight also should be a factor. Superchargers aren't light, while the K swap removes something like 60lbs. Probably a 100lb difference over the front end between the two kits.

With A/C and P/S removal and the K24 swap, our car dropped over 100 lbs. Its a 2000 and last weigh in was 2278 lbs. Full interior, roll bar, OEM hard top and soft top, race seats and harnesses, no spare tire, and half a tank. Can't complain about that.

That being said, if you are adding weight, I like the idea of adding it in the form of a Rotrex :)

SchmoozerJoe 09-18-2014 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1168328)
Bro, do you even Rotrex? Shipping weight on my entire C30-74 kit was 39lbs

Please stop making this so damned tempting.

Next you'll tell me the Rotrex kit not only comes with a CARB EO but will spontaneously generate kittens as well.

:party:

MOABmiata 09-18-2014 09:20 PM

Not disagreeing that a rotrex isn't worthy weight to add, and I didn't know that rotrex's were so light. The Lysolm 1.2L twin screw on my car weighs ~38lbs by itself and that isn't even including the intercooler, piping, etc. All together my supercharger kit is probably close to or more than 60lbs. Still worth it though :)

Mobius 09-18-2014 09:24 PM

No kittens. Just sparkly rainbow baby-unicorn-shaped bubbles out the tailpipe.

I like my Rotrex. It allows me to drive like a hooligan during autocross, and get more seat time on the edge of traction. Occasionally seat time watching the edge of traction part ways with me.



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