probably, but it's a better idea to just change the thermostat.

What kind of weather was there when you installed your MSPNP? Around here we face 90* to 100* temps for mostly all year round.

BTW, excuse my ignorance but; what is a cooling plate?

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When I installed it, it was maybe 60 out, but when it was tuned IIRC it was about 80.

It's just a little piece of metal at the front of the bay to force air through the radiator instead of escaping over it.

MS has fixed numbers for the increments for warmup - i.e. 100, 120, 140, 160, but each of those increments has an adjustable cell for % of added fuel - 110% being 10% added fuel. So, I would imagine that w/ a 160* thermostat you could set 160* to 100% (meaning no added fuel) and then voila, no extra fuel added anywhere near 160* or higher.

For people with a good cooling system, it seems to me like it could be beneficial for the car to operate at 160* if their cooling system could keep it down in that area for the majority of the time... but I know very litte.

-Ryan

Ok, thanks Koto!

I think it'd be the opposite, with a good cooling system you can run the 180 and not overheat, with a bad system you might need the 160 to compensate for lack of rad.

BTW, ThePass - I'll be moving out to Monterey in August, we should cruise n stuff.

Edit - you're welcome, Rafa!

You could, but why run a motor at a sustained 160*, when the normal operating temps are 180-190. Your rings will love you in winter. If this was the case on my car, I'd fab a radiator blockoff plate to achieve the correct temps....or not bother with a 160* Especially with the huge Godspeed.

Yeah, here's the question: WHY a 160?

If 160 is better, why not a 120 instead? Then you'd have that much more headroom.

If I could build anything I want, it would be a 200 (210?) degree car that gets to 210 is 20 seconds with heaters, and never gets to 211.

If you dump heat at the rate the car is making it, you're in good shape. If you're not, get a radiator/fans/*ducting*(worked wonders for me. I had my fans unplugged for a week and didn't know!), and a high flow thermo.

You asked for it, you got it. Let no man say that I am not thorough:

lmao!!! Good video!

Man, superstats suck. How was the beer?

:bowrofl: haha Joe that was great. looks like i'll avoid the superstat

If all you do is change the thermostat, sure the water temp will eventually reach the point at which the fans run. The fans are what controls the max temp. There's also low temp fan switches that are supposed to be used in conjunction with the low temp thermostat. In the turbo Miatas I build I use a Billion 65*C (150*F) high flow thermo and 78*C (173*F) "on" switch. In conjunction with a large Koyo radiator, coolant temps never hit 180*F.

Heat in the cylinder head is the cause of most detonation. While just running a cooler thermo and switch may not do anything for you, being able to advance the timing or run more boost will. Keeping the cylinder head cool is the key to making big power.

Joe, I had no idea you had it in you. I'm very impressed.

Here's what we learned:

1. "super" means balls

2. the temp rating of the thermostat means when it *starts* to open

3. heat transfer by radiation and convection is significantly less than by conduction when using a stove top.

Great work Joe!

I seriously lol'd at the video, excellent work Joe!

Does anyone know by any chance what part number is the NAPA thermostat Abe refers to?

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From the look of it, it appears to be identical to the Stant 29868. (the one that's always on the left in the video) I'd bet it's the same part.

Pretty good, actually. That Racer5 IPA was given to me by a friend whose total beer knowledge consists of "There's Budweiser, and there's that strong stuff Joe likes."

The scene where I'm drinking the beer was actually three beers long, edited down. I think there's one cut where you can see a second bottle on the countertop. As a result of this, the quality of my diction decreased somewhat for the couch scene (it took four takes to get that one right) as well as the VO that goes with the measurements at the beginning.

I learned one other thing as well- IBM makes amazingly durable hard drives. Just for kicks I plugged those two units in this morning, and they still work!

Fantastic
 

I couldn't stop laughing for an hour.

Are those the choice clothing styles of Joesph? No wonder all the dynos turned him away.