Lets talk harnesses...
 

Got me a roll bar finally and it has a harness bar so now I want a harness. Don't want to be cheep on this but don't want to spend a fortune either. Its road car that sees a auto-x every month or so.

Latch or Camlock? Is the cam really worth the $?

What brands are good and what do I stay away from?

What are you guys using? Like it?

Thanks

I've had both a latch style and a camlock. If you are in and out of the car frequently (like autocross) then the only one to get in my opinion is a camlock. 6pt is better than 5pt, you're balls will appreciate it. 3" wide webbing for shoulders and lap, 2" for anti-sub.

I've got an RCI right now, and it seems to be of excellent quality.

Jay

what he said.

I have a simpson, but I can't use the nut-straps because I have a Sparco Sprint. That is going to change though.

Get pullup on the lap, pull down on the shoulders.

If your 5 point sub strap is interfering with your nuts, you're doing it wrong.


Cam vs latch link, depends on how much you flail in the car. I've seen some drivers bump their cam release wrong and unbelt themselves.

Check with your local road racers. When the date expires on their harnesses, most just buy new rather than sending them back to get recertified. They often sell the "outdated" belts to autocrossers at a substantial discount. I got mine for free. You can't use them for racing etc, but they are perfectly legal for autocross.

On a stock seat?

That would qualify as doing it wrong.

agree. Camlock for autoX to much getting in and out.

But I have a 5 point sparco harness but only use two points, aka lapbelt and use my regular seatbelt along with it.

Yup, that's why I use a 6pt. Sit on the strap and feed it between the seatback and bottom to a set of eye-bolts bolted into the floor. Acceptable in my opinion, especially for autocross. The single strap in a 5pt harness becomes a very uncomfortable thong type deal.

Just went out and took some photos

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Using the stock seat puts the shoulder straps at the wrong angle (twist), and gives them a chance to seperate or walk down your shoulders. Crossing the belts behind the seat is also wrong. No harness manufacturer would accept liability or warranty claim on harnesses installed as such.

Yup. Thats why I only use two of the 5 points.

Ideal? No. Acceptable during a ~60sec autocross run? Yes.

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While that will hold you in the car better during an autocross run, it reduces the effectiveness of the factory 3 point if you actually got into a crash.

As long as you don't crash.

I must be really cheap...i usually have someone tie me with twine to my seat just before a run.....

WTF???

Ben:

Its actually not changing a thing about how my factory belt latches on. It goes on under my factory seatbelt, and is no thicker than the belt I wear on my pants. It looks like it pulls on the lock mechanism but thats just because I was lazy and just grabbed the belts out from behind my seat to take a photo.

Plus I never wear it on the street. Thats retarded.

Good point. I don't.

I mis-read your post so my reply made little sense. I removed it, but couldn't delete the post.