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Old 06-11-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by faeflora
OK anyone want to sell/loan me one? FWIW I think so too since the car goes, eh eh eh whirr, eh eh eh whirr when I crank it-- indicating spark/fuel out of phase?
Still got your old motor? Any chance that your cold cam sensor is still attached to the valve cover on it?
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
Where are you guys getting CAS from? From what I see he has a 2003 with separate crank and cam sensors.
I got it from whoever above said CAS. I didn't realize he was an '03. Still something in that realm, related.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:33 AM
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I said CAS... because it matters. if you have no cam sync, the car wont know when to fire the spark plugs and wont run.
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:37 AM
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But I thought the 01+ had no cas...
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:59 AM
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oh they do, but it's not the same one. it's just a magnetic type sensor on the top of the back of the valve cover.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Still got your old motor? Any chance that your cold cam sensor is still attached to the valve cover on it?
No, it was moved over.

partsgroup has one for $45 so next steps are to swap that out and also eyeball my camshafts.

Y8s, do you have a guess where/how/what setting/input the Hydra displays the cam angle sensor?
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:13 PM
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i dont think the hydra does display it.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
You're right, I haven't done this- I'm afraid to do it and **** **** up. I will pull it and look :/ Isn't this extremely rare on miatas though?
Yes, it is rare, but at least you agree that it has happened. There is at least one recent documented case on this forum.

Fortunately, your '03 cams are stronger than NA cams, so I really hope this isnt the issue, but checking your cams is free, and involves only a 10mm socket for the valve cover bolts, and a 12mm socket at the coil pack mount. Be patient if your valve cover does not pick up effortlessly, and everything will be ok.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fooger03
Yes, it is rare, but at least you agree that it has happened. There is at least one recent documented case on this forum.

Fortunately, your '03 cams are stronger than NA cams, so I really hope this isnt the issue, but checking your cams is free, and involves only a 10mm socket for the valve cover bolts, and a 12mm socket at the coil pack mount. Be patient if your valve cover does not pick up effortlessly, and everything will be ok.
OK well if I have a broken camshaft and it fucked my head I will cry because that would be bullshit since I have only been mild boosting for 40k miles or so.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:06 AM
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There might be a fuseable link blown. If that is the case you might have a big electrical short in the wiring. You will need the Haynes manual to find the link or talk to the parts counter people to help you find it. Also could be a bad cable or a loose connection to the battery. Check alternator wiring
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Originally Posted by jammy.cruse
There might be a fuseable link blown. If that is the case you might have a big electrical short in the wiring. You will need the Haynes manual to find the link or talk to the parts counter people to help you find it. Also could be a bad cable or a loose connection to the battery. Check alternator wiring
Hmm does anyone have a map of what the fuses under the dashboard? I eyeballed the fuses under the hood and they were all ok.
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so you checked your cam and crank sensors?
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This happen to me, but my culprit was the alternator.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by speester1
This happen to me, but my culprit was the alternator.
...read the thread tard, it aint no ****** alternator.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
so you checked your cam and crank sensors?
I'm sitting out at my car right now.

I swapped the cam angle sensor out, no go. Jeremy didn't know where there is a readout od the cam angle sensor in the hydra.

The crank angle sensor works- rpm is visible when cranking.

I didn't" pull the valve cover but I looed through the oil cap and saw that the exhausr cam was turning when cranking.

For the **** of it I tried leaning It out and richening it but it didn't"help.

Car is still going eh eh eh eh whirr as if **** is out if phase.
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Just eyeballed the plugs again for the **** of it. Yes I see them all firing
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and you're sure the crank sensor isn't loose and the crank trigger wheel hasn't moved relative to the crank pulley? you will still see spark and RPM if the wheel is rotated incorrectly.
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I just checked and the sesnsor is secure and the correct gap. I have an ati damper and it has two crank trigger points on it. I think they are part of the damper. I wiggled on them and they didn't move.
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If anyone within driving distance would be willing to look at this thing with me free buttsex for all!!!
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Originally Posted by fooger03
Looking down through the oil filler cap is great if you want to see that the first lobe on the exhaust cam is turning. If your cam is broken after that, you will have no idea if you dont pull the valve cover
Originally Posted by faeflora
I didn't" pull the valve cover but I looed through the oil cap and saw that the exhausr cam was turning when cranking.
FFS, It's a 10 minute job. Pull the damn valve cover.

Edit: I've been known to pull the valve cover because I was BORED.
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