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1fastmiata 02-14-2008 10:35 PM

manifold/ 3"exhaust
 
Ok, i finnally found out what kind of turbo i have... The turbo is a Garrett model and it is a hybrid T3/T4 combination. Small exhaust side (for a quick spool) and a biggercompressor side (for additional boost capabilities). The turbo kit itselfis from Flying Miata, but was designed by Corky Bell. i have a manifold that mates to it, but the turbo keeps falling off... does anyone know of a good setup to mate to my turbo?

Saml01 02-14-2008 10:38 PM

What do you mean keeps falling off? Did you glue it to the manifold?

patsmx5 02-14-2008 10:43 PM

Yea you gotta splurge and get the good glue or that shit will definitely fall off....

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 10:43 PM

no, the turbo bolts either sheer off or back out, i have it down so they ony back out, ive even braised in the studs and bolts, nothing keeps them in... so im looking for a new exhaust systme, manifold back

patsmx5 02-14-2008 10:47 PM

I'll give you 100 for the manifold and turbo so you can start shopping for a better one....

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 10:53 PM

that turbo was very expensive... plus im not ready to part with it unless i can find a better setup... find me a better setup that will put me over 300hp with less then 20psi of boost, then we will talk, not that low tho

patsmx5 02-14-2008 10:57 PM

Sounds like you have a great setup, you just need to give better details, better description, and pics and whatever else you can to better convery your problem. But if you want to get rid if it, let me know.

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:02 PM

im looking for a good exhaust for my turbo.. lets start there... do you know of one? or how about a better manifold?

musanovic 02-14-2008 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214521)
im looking for a good exhaust for my turbo.. lets start there... do you know of one? or how about a better manifold?

what do you consider good? what are you looking to get out of it besides 300wheel . any noise concerns, inspection, damn there is so much to ask buy you only provide 0.0000000000009% of the info

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:24 PM

its for the track, looking for the least lag possible, im going to be running 15+ psi, it will have External BOV, no restrictions on inspection. i just want a kick ass turbo that will make 300hp easy

cjernigan 02-14-2008 11:26 PM

Ebay T3/T4

All BOV's are external unless you consider a recirc'd BOV internal. Did you mean external wastegate?

musanovic 02-14-2008 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214535)
its for the track, looking for the least lag possible, im going to be running 15+ psi, it will have External BOV, no restrictions on inspection. i just want a kick ass turbo that will make 300hp easy

run a straight 3.5" inch pipe:bigtu::bigtu:

miataz 02-14-2008 11:31 PM

begi

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:32 PM

i have a t3/t4 isnt 3.5 a little much? not enough backpressure?

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by miataz (Post 214552)
begi

thts a little vague... do they sell a system that will mate to my turbo?

musanovic 02-14-2008 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214553)
i have a t3/t4 isnt 3.5 a little much? not enough backpressure?

backpressure 4 what?:useless::useless::useless::useless::useless:

patsmx5 02-14-2008 11:41 PM

s E A R C H !



1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:44 PM

dude, 3" is the right amount of flow for an exhaust, 3.5" exhaust is too much airflow.. which turns into not enough backpressure=loss of hp... i want to gain hp, not lose it

patsmx5 02-14-2008 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214569)
dude, 3" is the right amount of flow for an exhaust, 3.5" exhaust is too much airflow.. which turns into not enough backpressure=loss of hp... i want to gain hp, not lose it

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::giggle::giggl e::fm:

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:51 PM

are you going to say otherwise? because your not helping. if you have different information please tell me.

musanovic 02-14-2008 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214569)
dude, 3" is the right amount of flow for an exhaust, 3.5" exhaust is too much airflow.. which turns into not enough backpressure=loss of hp... i want to gain hp, not lose it

glad u got my point :) i thought that less restriction=more power, backpressure comes from the turbo manifold right? u'll get faster spool with a bigger pipe i was being sarcastic about the 3.5" BUT IT WOULD BE NICEEEEEE

1fastmiata 02-14-2008 11:58 PM

not really sure that it comes from the manifold, im pretty sure that its when you let go of the exhaust, air doesnt get sucked in the exhaust pipe and travel up the exhaust=loss of hp

cjernigan 02-14-2008 11:59 PM

The most efficient exhaust for a turbo is supposedly a 6" long cone coming off the back.
Turbo's operate best with no backpressure.

musanovic 02-15-2008 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 214582)
The most efficient exhaust for a turbo is supposedly a 6" long cone coming off the back.
Turbo's operate best with no backpressure.

+1

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:05 AM

could i see this? or are you pulling my chain?

cjernigan 02-15-2008 12:14 AM

I'm not pulling your chain.

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:14 AM

could you show me a pic?

cardriverx 02-15-2008 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214595)
could you show me a pic?

he is right, the turbo itself creates enough backpressure for the engine, after the turbo you want the largest exhaust you can fit.

cjernigan 02-15-2008 12:27 AM

You can't imagine a slight tapered piece of tubing coming off of a turbo?

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:28 AM

so essentially what your saying is to fab up a 3" exhaust or should i fab up something larger? and no muffler or anything? i dont have a cat but i currently have a muffler

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:29 AM

small side to the turbo or away from the turbo?

cjernigan 02-15-2008 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214602)
small side to the turbo or away from the turbo?

Small at the turbo, tapers out from there on.
Fab up 3" exhaust with no muffler or anything. Paul runs straight 3" with a straight through resonator, sounds awesome(in videos).

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:38 AM

why resonator? isnt that for inspection purposes? im not looking to pass inspection, but i am looking to stay under 92 dB

mighty mouse 02-15-2008 12:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

cjernigan 02-15-2008 12:40 AM

A resonator keeps your car from sounding like a ricey piece of SH!T

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 12:46 AM

got it! mine doesnt sound rice right now, you cant even hear the exhaust apperantly i went by a decible meter at WOT and hit 97dB tho... the car sounds of all turbo... i like it

musanovic 02-15-2008 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by mighty mouse (Post 214610)

heheheheh
got to love this

hustler 02-15-2008 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214575)
are you going to say otherwise? because your not helping. if you have different information please tell me.

Last night my girlfriend came home earlier than she ever has and caught me, naked, watching porn, and stroking it with a mask and snorkel on.

There's not really much to say at that point. She walked right past me and went into the bedroom. I quickly turned the porn off, put on some pants, and took the mask and snorkel off. Five minuets later she came out of the bedroom and asked how my day was... it was like she didn't just catch me throttling myself with a mask and snorkel on. The rest of the evening went as normal. We had baked chicken and green beans for dinner, and then watched the simpsons.

I don't really don't know what else to say.

patsmx5 02-15-2008 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastmiata (Post 214579)
not really sure that it comes from the manifold, im pretty sure that its when you let go of the exhaust, air doesnt get sucked in the exhaust pipe and travel up the exhaust=loss of hp

Yeap, every time I let go of the exhaust air get sucked in the exhaust pipe and travel up and it's just kills hp gotta put something to give me more backpresure to stop it and more backpressure=more hp. I heard approximately 3.125001" exhaust is better than 3" cause too much much pressure on pipe=loss of back pressure=loss of hp=more air up exhaust getting sucked up=more turbo lag cause EGT's go down. Don't want that we all know you gotta have back pressure to make hp....

Doppelgänger 02-15-2008 11:19 AM

this is the "cone" that was being talked about.... 'tis no joke.
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/pr.../R3530_ztn.jpg

1fastmiata 02-15-2008 04:03 PM

and where does that end up? out of the hood? or route it at that diameter out say the side (shortest distance?)

Zabac 02-15-2008 05:12 PM

right dead smack into your firewall is the best place, especially if you cut a hole in it so the flames can reach into the cabin and burn your face offfff

thats it, smaller diameter gets welded to the weld flange and the other end is just that, the end...this obviously does not work on our cars

what you need is to take your manifold and turbo to a machine shop and have them drill out the holes to fit grade 10 bolts and use locking washers and this should solve your problems

as far as exhaust, if you alread have a 3" then your good, but we dont know what you have cause you failed numerous times to ever mention what you have...

so i say, big clear pics of car and set up and your ID to prove your over 12 or BAN

miataspeed1point6 02-15-2008 05:32 PM

Is your exhaust hard mounted anywhere on the car? Like a bracket that bolts to the bell housing or something. It could be out of alignment and pulling on your turbo. If so, that is bad.

1fastmiata 02-16-2008 01:54 AM

sorry about that, i must have mentioned it in a different thread. i have a 2.5" exhaust, no cat just a muffler. This thread is named manifold/ 3" exhaust because it stats that im looking for a 3" exhaust... no help there...
no one seems to be listening, I OWN A MACHINE SHOP I STOPPED THE TURBO BOLTS FROM BREAKING, THATS NOT THE ISSUE. the issue is they back out, i have tried lock washers, i have BRAISED at 2000 degrees i have tried everything except the absoute permenant solution of welding... i dont want to do that. my car is in storage right now, my father and i will be performing a coolant reroute next weekend and i will take some pics of the engine bay... anything in particular i should take pictures of for you besides the obvious turbo, manifold, and such?


Not sure if its mounted to the car, when i have the bolts out, it doesnt take any effort other then the weight of the turbo to put it on.


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