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turbofan 10-13-2016 11:35 AM

Definitely not just Hailey. Most of my customers get in the car and crank it one way or the other. Sometimes I want to ask them "Do you REALLY want it to be 90 degrees in here? REALLY FOOL?"


z31maniac 10-13-2016 11:40 AM

Is the "Auto" climate control "dual zone?"

If so, that's really nice if you and the other half like different temps. This one girl I'm seeing, I'll typically have the air on my side while she has the heated seat on and the temp up a litte higher on her side.

ridethecliche 10-13-2016 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 1367197)
-auto climate control
This is actually a pretty tits feature to those that don't have it (crap, I mean it's a "great" feature - sorry about the locker room talk). Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car. My value: $400.

It's not about the words, it's how you use them.

Also, those hot flashes tho.

asmasm 10-13-2016 12:34 PM


Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car.
My wife makes me fucking crazy with this.

sixshooter 10-13-2016 01:50 PM

Large construction equipment all has automatic a/c temp control. Even still I can't get in a machine that hasn't been set to 63F by the previous inhabitant. I use it properly but would still prefer cable operated simplicity and reliability.

Ryan_G 10-13-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1367334)
Large construction equipment all has automatic a/c temp control. Even still I can't get in a machine that hasn't been set to 63F by the previous inhabitant. I use it properly but would still prefer cable operated simplicity and reliability.

Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as fuck. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.

codrus 10-13-2016 05:25 PM

Auto climate control systems are stupid, I'd much rather have the old three-knobs-and-two-buttons version that my NB uses.

Why are they stupid? Well, they're using a thermostat to target a given interior ambient air temperature. In a house that's not a bad idea, because that's a good proxy for occupant comfort level. In a car it's not, the big panes of glass everywhere means that the question of whether or not the sun is beating down on you is much more relevant than in a house. I don't *want* the car to be at 70F, what I want is to be able to directly control the temperature and speed of the air that's blowing on me.

--Ian

z31maniac 10-13-2016 05:38 PM

My BRZ has "Auto" and "Dual" zone climate control. But it's only "Auto" if you hit that button.

Godless Commie 10-13-2016 05:57 PM

I am not bothered by heat or cold. Does not effect me.
All I need is a decent defroster so I can see where I am going.
So, screw the fancy schmancy climate control crap.

hornetball 10-13-2016 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Godless Commie (Post 1367415)
I am not bothered by heat or cold. Does not effect me.
All I need is a decent defroster so I can see where I am going.
So, screw the fancy schmancy climate control crap.

LOL. You have no idea what heat and cold is. Whatever difficulties Turkey has, a harsh climate is not one of them. You have a beautiful country, BTW! :)

Godless Commie 10-13-2016 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1367434)
LOL. You have no idea what heat and cold is. Whatever difficulties Turkey has, a harsh climate is not one of them. You have a beautiful country, BTW! :)

I do.
20 years in Anchorage, AK.
Known to be cold.
And working under stacks and stacks of lights all summer, where plastic screens were melting.
Or, translating training lectures for equine vets in the field, in 40C weather (100+F) in southern Turkey...

Didn't bother me.

Mobius 10-14-2016 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1367339)
Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as fuck. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.

Until you drive a vehicle in which it just works. Our 2006 Odyssey has excellent logic controlling the hvac system. Other than adjusting the temp up or down a bit, maybe hitting the defroster button, I don't have to interact with it at all. It just works. Triple zone allows everyone to be comfortable (only driver/passenger are automatic, rear is adjust as you want).

Compare to Subaru's offerings. Our 2006 Outback in New Zealand appeared to have climate control, it would let you set a temperature, but worked so miserably I was manually adjusting what/where/how hard it blew all the time, but with stupid have-to-look-at-them buttons instead of the 3-knob manual control standard that has existed for decades that allows you to just adjust that shit without taking your eyes off the road. Our 2016 Outback here in the States is quite a bit better, but still makes weird decisions about where to have the fan blowing sometimes.

The Odyssey just works.

codrus 10-14-2016 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1367678)
Until you drive a vehicle in which it just works. Our 2006 Odyssey has excellent logic controlling the hvac system. Other than adjusting the temp up or down a bit, maybe hitting the defroster button, I don't have to interact with it at all. It just works. Triple zone allows everyone to be comfortable (only driver/passenger are automatic, rear is adjust as you want).

We have a 2007 Odyssey, it's no better than the other auto climate control systems. Fundamentally the problem is that it's measuring the wrong thing.

--Ian

Mobius 10-15-2016 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1367685)
We have a 2007 Odyssey, it's no better than the other auto climate control systems. Fundamentally the problem is that it's measuring the wrong thing.

--Ian

2007 sucks then. 2006 is the bomb. Sorry you got a bad year.

Leafy 10-15-2016 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1367339)
Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as fuck. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.

You do know that if you just left it set at 60whatever it would just do exactly what you're doing now right? The auto climat control in the wrx is awesome. If you set it cole when its blisteringy hot outside it'll run everything full blast and then slowly bring the fan speed down while full cold, and if it manages to keep up at that point once the fan is low it'll start blending in some warm air, but it'll never get to that if its over 90.

Ryan_G 10-15-2016 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1367755)
You do know that if you just left it set at 60whatever it would just do exactly what you're doing now right? The auto climat control in the wrx is awesome. If you set it cole when its blisteringy hot outside it'll run everything full blast and then slowly bring the fan speed down while full cold, and if it manages to keep up at that point once the fan is low it'll start blending in some warm air, but it'll never get to that if its over 90.

I've tried it. It was annoying and terrible. It's much easier for me to just set it to full cold and adjust it manually. I maybe touch it twice while driving and it consumes a total of 5 seconds of my time while doing a better job than the native logic. It's a 2003 so I am not sure if it's just because it is an older system that is not as good at it.

Mobius 10-17-2016 02:06 AM

#firstworldproblems

Chilicharger665 10-17-2016 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1367233)
I still want a Sport. Arrrrrrrhhhhh!!!!!

Buy mine in a few months :naughty:

hornetball 10-17-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1368020)
Buy mine in a few months :naughty:

Sorry. Has to be an '18 or later. I always give Mazda at least a couple of years to refine a new design.

ThePass 10-17-2016 03:46 PM

Starting to sound like miata.net in here! This must be remedied.

http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/downlo...hp?id=4013&t=1

Taking the ND out to the GTA Finals in a few weeks. We'll be running it in the entry-level Enthusiast RWD class. Looking at the entries, we're going to be up against M3s, 350Z, etc. Should be fun.


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