Mishimoto/Godspeed/Cxracing radiators: Are they identical?
 

There's even a new one by "blackworks." I'm going to buy one of these but I suspect they are all made in one factory somewhere in China. They look the same, they have very similar dimensions but are priced differently. Can anyone confirm that they are all indeed the same radiator?

No, I can't confirm that, but I can say that I have been using a CXracing one in my SM race car with no problems.

I can do the Mishimotos for 230shipped, but its not on the website yet.

No they are not identical.

I compared my Mishi to a Godspeed, and mine is much nicer. However, I did have to go through three before i got one without a leak, but thats just jewish luck for you.

^And you had one of the first production runs right? I think as Mishi started getting a bunch returned for being shit, they upped their production values a bunch. I havent heard of anybody sending one back in a long time.

Stop buying cheap chinese shit you cheap ass motherfuckers.

OK here's the side-by-side:
https://www.miataturbo.net/gallery/f.../4/9107264.jpg
I really see no difference. The only real difference is found in the ad text: Only the Mishimoto mentions a radiator cap even though every radiator is pictured with one except the godspeed. Mishimoto mentions a 1 year warranty, Godspeed mentions a 90 day warranty & others do not mention warranties at all.

Prices on ebay are as follows:
Blackworks $219 + $10 insurance = $229 shipped
Mishimoto $240 + $21 CA tax = $261 shipped
CXracing $133 + $31 shipping + $16 CA tax = $180 shipped
Godspeed $160 + $40 shipping + $16.50 CA tax = $216.50 shipped

I'd say anyone in the market specifically for a Mishimoto clearly should get it from Travis at $230 shipped. OTOH, if you believe these radiators are all the same like I do, the CXracing radiator is the clear value. And as much as I'd like to support vendors, a $50 difference is too much.

I think the godspeed is the only different one. All others come with a partial mounting bracket that you can see in those pictures.

Nicer how? Weight? Weld quality? Fitting? Finish?

Apparently QC on the Mishimoto is not so good.

I can't really tell if that's the rediator, or just the way the picture is cropped tho...

is the CXRacing one plug and play? I want to replace my rad but don't want to futz around any more than I need to.

+1

Get a PWR and never look back.

Welding quality seems to be better on my latest unit and its a lot better compared to the GS I saw in a friends car.

The fit between the 3 units was always the same, it just dropped right in. Weight was same as well.

Yea, I got it right as it was offered here on a GP. Within a week it developed a leaking water neck, and weld on the top tank. The replacement I got started leaking between the fins around the bottom tank within a month. This third one, knock on wood hail allah is still holding and seems to be made better.

Despite the inconvenience, the guys over at turbochargers.com were ready and willing to get it exchanged and so were the guys over at mishimoto. I can only say positive things about dealing with them.

Its a gamble with cheap stuff, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

do yourself a favor and get a massive sprint-car radiator. You can get a large universal Ron Davis for $300, then get aluminum mounts welded to it.

And ducting, btw Hustler when your tracked your car did you have any overheating problems?

Oil temps were high, but that's expected with no ducting. I still need to put on the vented hood, but I had to turn the fans on on the 3rd session at 90* ambient...with the bottom of the radiator ducting breaking out (zip tied to the bumper). So basically, with totally inneffective ducting I had no water temp problems.

:hustler:

:giggle:

you can talk shit after you see pussy for the first time in your life.

I am confounded; I thought Savington met you already. :giggle:

I have the CXRacing rad on my '04. It's fine. Only thing I had to do is use slim fans and make new top brackets, because of rubbing against the a/c condenser.

I've had a Godspeed for over a year now with no problems.
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Mishi bought in Feb. was built well, fit perfectly, and came with 19 lb cap. Very happy.

I lurk here a lot and do not post. BUT

I have the cxracing Rad On my Bone Stock 92. And it installed perfect No fitment issues. Just Bolt Your fans on it before you put it in. And Remove Intake Cross Over.

It Does Come with a partial Mounting Bracket. You remove the Two Side peices That hold the stock one it place with little rubber bushings.

I also have a/c and did not have a problem with it fitting. Just pushed fans back further.. kinda a tight fit but worth it. I got mine $150 Shipped On eGAY


Fit great and havent had a problem. Is A Improvement Over stock For Sure

So you went thru three Mishi's to get a good one, and the only difference you saw between those and a GS was the weld quality. I still say they're the same radiator. The only difference is the skill of the underpaid factory worker welding it up.

You hit the nail on the head. If you want a high quality radiator from the get-go, go ahead and pay $500 for one. If you're willing to dick around with returns because of shitty quality control you might save $320. The choice is easy for me. Radiators are easy to change.

They are all different, or at least the Mishimoto's are different (read:better). Just because parts are made in China does not mean they are crap. Even the expensive companies like Koyo are made in China.

i just bought another cxraing one for my mazdaspeed and it looks nice. I just have to put it in tomorrow and see if everythings good

... Which reminds me .... I said in an earlier post that I had to make new top brackets because the rad rubbed against the A/C condenser .... in fact the REASON it rubbed was because of the extra width of the FM throttle body elbow. So, if you have an FM intake on your Mazdaspeed, then definitely use slim fans and make longer top brackets (bolt and post holes about 1" farther apart than stock), otherwise you'll have trouble.

how do you know it's better?

cool thanks for the heads up....although i dont think itll apply to me when i install it tomorrow:giggle:

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Mishimoto radiator source
 

My mishimoto dropped right in, got a hell of a deal on it too :).

I'm running one from CXRacing and absolutely love it. The stock fans bolted right on, radiator dropped right in, and has been working like a champ ever since. 1 hard open track day and a whole bunch of stop and stop and stop and go traffic resulting from the Woodward Dream Cruise and it has yet to allow my coolant temps to go even remotely high. I'm definitely a believer.

I was at a friend's shop and we sliced Mishi, GS, Koyo, and Fluidyne s13 rads in half to see which would be best for their race car.

Mishimoto had much better internal quality, and the fitment was better.