More ACT + Spec stuff
 

Alright, I've searched and I've read about 10 threads but I'm still a bit confused.

I've got a 90. building a t25 DIY...yada yada...looking for ~180 hp, maybe more later on ~9 psi to start out with:

I've heard the ACT stage 1 - HD PP and Street disc will start to slip after a while since it is only rated to 200 ft-lbs. So what about an ACT XT PP and Street disc? I found a kit from a local shop for $336.21 + tax is that reasonable? Rated up to 277 ft-lbs, but street disc so shouldn't be that much of a pain in the ass to drive right?

http://carolinaclutch.com/ShowItem/101373.aspx

Or, like samnavy's did, go with the Spec Stage two, rated up to 239 ft-lbs for $290 + shipping I think

http://www.jdsperformance.com/spec.a...iata&fcmd=cars

Or...lol, go with a ACT stage 1 1.8 clutch and pick up my friends fidanza 1.8 flywheel for cheap?

Decisions...decisions. The Car is a DD so the XT PP kinda scares me. But on my friends GSX, it wasn't THAT bad.

go with the badest you can get i prefer mechanical clutches and all that old school shit so all this talk of heavy clutch engagement is mut. The stiffer the better then you can do major clutch drops and kick some ass.

the HD kit feels like stock. no increased effort and holds perfectly fine. I've been running mine hard at 170rwhp without a hitch. Bumped it up to 12psi and just found the limits, close to 220rwhp.

the XD kit will have increased pedal effort due to the heavier PP. But it should hold just as advertised. If you aren't a pussy you should be able to handle it.

the XT with street disc is just fine. not hard to drive at all.

YEEE HAAAAWWWW!!!! Amen brutha, turn and burn!!!!!
I love that guy!

I just rolled over 100miles on my Spec Stage II, so not yet broken in. I'll say it again... IT FEELS EXACTLY LIKE STOCK. The flywheel thing is another question alltogether.
The only thing in question for me is the reputation for Spec's. They seem to have more problems than ACT's... but that may simply be from people not following the break-in procedure right. I've disconnected my wastegate to prevent me from running it too hard too quick.
But for now, I couldn't be happier with it.

For Sam: http://thatvideosite.com/video/3700

I have a spec stage 3 on my camaro, did the break in period, and no problems with 3 years now, tons of power going through that clutch also.

:confused:

I can hook it up through either www.clutchnet.com or www.turboclutch.com

I would go with the ACT 1.8L clutch. The 1.8L stuff is a lot beefier and holds more torque. The increased mass of the 1.8L clutch is nothing you are ever going to feel. I would get the ACT xtreme PP and street disk w/ that.

FWIW, I did a Spec Stg. 2 1.8L kit and bought a lightened 1.8L flywheel. Good for 275lb-ft. Probably 15-20% stiffer than stock.

thats the most badass thing ever!

but that runs over 400-500 bucks for what I've seen. I'm a balla on a budget dawg ;).

I can get the ACT Stg 1 for $267 and the ACT XT PP and Street for $330. and the spec stage 2 for $290.

the ACT stage 1 HD PP for the 1.8 is $358

What do you suggest w/ about 300-350 dollars max to use.

I had an ACT Xtreme with Street/strip disc on my. Held everything I threw at it

I talked to the guy at the local shop...I'm thinking I might go with the XT PP and Street Disc...its $331 and should be plenty...since its the street disc, it should be fine, just a little stiff b/c of the XT PP from what I've heard.

I was driving Newbsauce's miata last night and it has an obivously heavier PP. I acually prefer it to my featherweight clutch ACT HD PP.

No P/S on the otherhand had me sweating....:riaa:

My PP and Brains are like night and day. I almost kicked his clutch through the floorboard on the first shift. And for the record, no P/S builds character. :bigtu:

And it should engage the about same, since it is a street disc right?

lol. My new car has a light OEM clutch with the engagment set high. I almost sent the pedal through the floor just like you did when I test drove it haha. Was use to the gorilla ACT Xtreme

is a clutch pairing available that will hold 250whp and not engage off the floor? I can't stand that ACT release shit.

Yeah...couple posts up I mention the Spec Stg. 2 1.8L w/ 1.8L flywheel holds 277lb-ft, which is darn close to 250rwhp and only 15-20% stiffer pedal whose engagement point is pretty close to stock.

I think the carbone-fiber pro disk from Clutchnet would fit that bill as well.

thanks. I'll probably go with the carbon disk and spec clutch when that time comes.

I just bought the clutchnet cermatallic 6 puck, but was considering the carbon disk. Clutchnet guy said it (carbon) would hold 300ftlbs at the crank but no more.

that's more than I'll ever see.

went and talked to the local ACT/Exedy/Fidanza distrubutor today and I think I'm going to go with the ACT Xtreme PP and Street disc. he qouted me 350 for it and that seems a little cheaper than most places I've seen online and I don't have to pay shipping. Prolly end up doing this in the garage or on a friends lift over the break so we shall see how that goes.

Anybody know the going rate on having a flywheel resurfaced...its just the stock one.

Anyone found a better deal than $465-470 for a full XT PP + street disc set? I don't think I want to dick around with an HD PP.

Do I even need a new disc, or can I just pick up the PP, throwout bearing, etc. and do it that way?

Bullshit you just might surprise yourself.:cool:

I paid $350 after taxes from a local guy...but thats for the 1.6 stuff

www.carolinaclutch.com

$474.65 shipped from CarolinaClutch for the 1.8 XT. I don't know if I'd want to use a 1.6 setup on my 1.8, even with only 240 crank ft.lbs, just because I'd have to go and source a 1.6 flywheel. I plan to have my stock flywheel machined.

this is true.

I just got my stock flyhweel resurfaced...I just like looking at it.

Spec'd out from racepages.com, I found an ACT XD PP, Exedy disc, ACT pilot and release bearings for $420. Anything I'm missing? They want an even $500 for their ACT XD "kit", but I don't think I'll be able to tell the difference between a $130 ACT street disc and a $50 Exedy street disc. :)

heh..my xd kit HAS the exedy disc...go figure.

do the puck style discs wear any faster than a full, round organic or kevlar disc? I'm thinking about the 1.8l spec stage 2.

I hve 140k on my clutch...so I want to have something in the garage, ready to swap. I've had time belt job stuff in there since may.

Didn't samnavy have trouble with his? I'd just get an ACT XT and be done with it.

Yes...he did...there are numerous problems reported with that clutch, be careful.

+1. Altough if you are on a budget and are certain you wont boost past 200rwhp, then the HD is still holding my power. But I'm at it's limits.

Mine will be for sale in Feb. (8k on it)

I don't think the T25 .48 I have is going to let me go much past 200rwhp on 10-12psi but I don't want to buy two clutches if I'm wrong. I also don't want to buy two clutches when I upgrade later on to a T25/T28 and 15psi.

thus is the delema. I only put 8k on mine. and now I'm swapping it out.

sorry for the offtopic but what do you think about clucth net clutches?

Pressure plate:
http://clutchnet.com/product.php?pro...9&cat=0&page=2

Clutch (solid hub):
http://clutchnet.com/product.php?pro...8&cat=0&page=1

Clutch (sprung hub):
http://clutchnet.com/product.php?pro...1&cat=0&page=1

What is the advantage of the sprung hub over the solid one or the other way around?

https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5941


check that thread....about halfway down Wideopentuning suggests a combo from them.

Anyone heard what the issue with Sam's clutch is?

he was boost spiking on the dyno and his clutch was slipping...still, even with the spikes he should have been under the tq rating for it.

Spring disks reduce the shock to the drivetrain, and thus reduce damage to the tranny and diff. At least that's the theory.

i think I'm just going to do the xtreme with a street disc from ACT because we know it will work right, although pedal feel is shit.

I'm still tempted to do the clutchnet combo with a "red" plate and sprung disk.

why would I go with a clutch disk like this
http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php...1&cat=0&page=1

or
http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php...5&cat=0&page=1

over this disc?
http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php...1&cat=0&page=1

i don't understand why the "puck style" disk will hold more, or which one will last longer. I think I will go with the 2x pressure plate just because that's added grip insurance right?

thanks for the advice.