If you're in a good relationship, getting engaged and getting married shouldn't change much...having kids...well that's the kicker...

Try it and get back to me.

I've yet to come upon a solid, logical reason for reproduction. She winds up with stretch marks, kids cost money, you can't do what you want to do, etc., and it's not like we're in danger of extinction.

What's wrong with a handful of gay guys giving out relationship advice? Appletini, anyone... anyone?

Ya seriously I had to start another project with 4 seats because of this.

Appeltinis!! OOOhhh, I looovvve those! j/k



Seriously, Mr. the_man, that's very unfulfilling.

Try having someone care so much about you that they care for your wants and needs before their own; Someone who is so smart and hard-working that they challenge you to be better than you would be on your own; Someone who you can trust with your very life, and that you respect so much that you would never consider abusing that trust; Someone who is incredibly sexy to you both physically and mentally; And someone who you would rather share your time and experiences with than any other person you know.

I've had some fun fuckbuddies, but there is no comparison to true love. None at all. Gerald is my everything.

how big is HIS dyno plot hmm?

Some people's VTEC goes all the way up to their NAWZ. I'm just sayin'.

You see, the irony of the whole thing is that I and my current, um, whatever she is care about each other very much, moreso than any girlfriend I've ever had. We have a ton of fun, we go out together, we chat, we laugh. We've both had some bad experiences with the whole relationship thing in the past and we both have pasts that we're neither happy about nor particularly proud of, and we've known each other long enough to know way more details than we likely should about each others' pasts, but when we're together, none of that matters. I'm having more fun than ever, I care about her more than anyone, and the sex is more amazing than ever.

So yeah, it's damn well fulfilling. We just don't want to jinx it by giving it some useless label that only connotates pain to either of us. And really, we know how we feel, and that's all that really matters. So yes, it's more than the normal fuckbuddy casual sex relationship, it just is what it is.

So you have a "girlfriend" and a committed "relationship" but don't want to use words that might hold a negative connotation to you. While that is a really good thing if it works for you, it leaves the original description lacking a few important concepts for the rest of us to comprehend your construct. It is a bit like describing a bear to someone who has never seen one without mentioning claws, fur, and teeth. Not mentioning those things doesn't mean they don't exist, but it sure makes it difficult for the person you were describing it to to pick Gentle Ben out of a lineup.

So you're in a relationship with your girlfriend but you don't want to call it a relationship because that's a "bad thing."

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck... calling it a weasel might make you feel better, but it's still a duck.

Relationships, commitment, all of that is awesome... if you find the right person and are both honest. If not... not so awesome.

Right. Except for the fact that before we started hooking up, we were really good friends, and we did everything I just mentioned but hook up. So the only thing that has changed in our "relationship" would be the hooking up. It's not like we just met and started dating, and it's not like we just met and started hooking up. We've known each other for a while, been good friends for a while, gone out and done things that were fun together for a while.

So really, it just is what it is.

That's really just a good idea. Dating, to me, is a really stupid idea. It's best to start as friends and see where things go from there. Then you know if you really like to spend time with the person as a person. Dating, really seems to be meeting people under an series of pretensions. Eventually those pretensions fall away and you really end up as just friends, but more. So, totally not a bad idea, no matter what you call it. :)

Problem with starting off a relationship as friends is that you don't know if feeling is mutual . If you are friends with a girl and later confess your feelings for her she might not feel the same for you and now feels betrayed because she'll think this whole time you were pretending to be a friend to get to her.

Dating can be pretencious but at least both parties have an idea of eachothers expectations.

The problem is when you try to force something to be that shouldn't, or something to not be that should. People are going to do whatever (or, for that matter, whoever) they please. Sometimes it sucks and you're on a one-way street. Sometimes you'll be the one that somebody else is trying to chase down a one-way street. It's all just the way the cookie crumbles. The real trick is to just let things unfold and contain your expectations.

BTW, my [whatever] spent the night last night and we had sex first thing in the morning before going to work. :D