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matrussell122 01-29-2018 09:43 AM

You should really save and get a MS3X because it does so much more than the earlier models. And realistically if you cant afford a MS3 you probably shouldn't be turuboing a miata.

Biggest thing is learning from everyone else and their mistakes so you don't have to find out the hard way

Miridion 01-29-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by acedeuce802 (Post 1464250)
DIYPNP is the way to go for Megasquirt on a budget. MS2 technology, but you don't have to make custom circuits without good documentation. With a DIYPNP you just populate the circuit board and wire some jumpers according to a pinout and it's a plug and play ECU. It will run exceptionally better than an MS1, there's plenty of comparison threads around here to explain specifics.

Definitely. What confuses me is which PNP I need to use. I see different PIN numbers and I’m not sure how many exactly that I need.

concealer404 01-29-2018 10:22 AM

The one that matches your car. They have an application guide.

acedeuce802 01-29-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Miridion (Post 1464256)
Definitely. What confuses me is which PNP I need to use. I see different PIN numbers and I’m not sure how many exactly that I need.

https://www.diyautotune.com/support/...ilable-models/

You'll see all Miatas between 1990 and 2000 use the same DIYPNP, that's because they have the same ECU connector. The pinout is different, so if you click the link to the right of your year, it'll have instructions on how to populate the board and jumpers for your year. You can also check out trubokitty.com.

shuiend 01-29-2018 11:07 AM

1. Go to trubokitty.com.
2. Follow steps to build MS3X.
3. Profit

hi_im_sean 01-29-2018 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Miridion (Post 1464247)
My normal daily is being used so my original plan was once I have it back I was going to boost it. What type of functionality does ms1 have vs ms2? I’m looking at DIY boards and I’m wondering if the MS2 would be worth the extra cost off the bat

JFC don't buy an MS1, I was just saying that if you can afford an FMU, even an MS1 would be a better choice.

18psi 01-29-2018 11:35 AM

Smart enough to understand how stupid his decisions are to use junk.
Dumb enough to pursue the pointless waste of time and money anyway
Lazy enough to post thread in wrong section, ask the most basic and beat to death questions ever, and create a FS ad with next to no info

You're just hitting all the right notes, aintcha?

kakkid611 01-29-2018 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1464279)
Smart enough to understand how stupid his decisions are to use junk.
Dumb enough to pursue the pointless waste of time and money anyway
Lazy enough to post thread in wrong section, ask the most basic and beat to death questions ever, and create a FS ad with next to no info

You're just hitting all the right notes, aintcha?

Yeah IKR who asks frequently asked questions only LAZY dumb people who do pointless stuff I say like wow so bad harrumph smh thank you for putting my exact thoughts to words mr professional you are mod of the year right here, and it's only January thats how good u are, top tier.

18psi 01-29-2018 12:08 PM

you're very welcome.

matrussell122 01-29-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by kakkid611 (Post 1464296)
Yeah IKR who asks frequently asked questions only LAZY dumb people who do pointless stuff I say like wow so bad harrumph smh thank you for putting my exact thoughts to words mr professional you are mod of the year right here, and it's only January thats how good u are, top tier.



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Impresssive

concealer404 01-29-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by kakkid611 (Post 1464296)
Yeah IKR who asks frequently asked questions only LAZY dumb people who do pointless stuff I say like wow so bad harrumph smh thank you for putting my exact thoughts to words mr professional you are mod of the year right here, and it's only January thats how good u are, top tier.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20131031143357

ryansmoneypit 01-29-2018 12:35 PM

Reading through this thread, I noticed one big glaring factor- You haz no patience. I think you will have a really hard time building a megasquirt.


fixed and edited: Lots of deleted text. Maybe youngsters have less bills than i do.

sixshooter 01-29-2018 04:45 PM

Patients? Pay shunts? Pay shints? Patience.

I think that building your own ECU will scratch that itch to modify something useful. And it is a logical first step toward adding forced induction. Another side benefit is that installing the ECU will typically generate a bump in horsepower due to being able to eliminate the AFM and being able to tune spark and fuel for power.

And I'd like to thank 18psi for banishing the smart ass text talk kid. We address each other as adults here, using proper grammar and punctuation when we insult each other. Mostly.

MartinezA92 01-29-2018 07:05 PM

what the fuck is going on in here?

Miridion 01-29-2018 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1464355)
Patients? Pay shunts? Pay shints? Patience.

I think that building your own ECU will scratch that itch to modify something useful. And it is a logical first step toward adding forced induction. Another side benefit is that installing the ECU will typically generate a bump in horsepower due to being able to eliminate the AFM and being able to tune spark and fuel for power.

And I'd like to thank 18psi for banishing the smart ass text talk kid. We address each other as adults here, using proper grammar and punctuation when we insult each other. Mostly.

I’ll definitely do that. Thanks guys for helping me better my project. I will wait and save to use good parts. Sadly based on my attempt to sell my turbo on my local miata groups, I don’t think I’ll have luck selling my other things. If it’s okay with you guys I’d like to have this post deleted so that I can start an actual build thread (I found the sub-forum I should have posted on originally)

sixshooter 01-30-2018 07:04 AM

Threads can be moved.

I hate to tell you but nobody's really going to want that turbo. You don't really want it either.

I've got a box full of spare junkyard T3 turbos and parts. They are virtually worthless.

Monk 01-30-2018 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Miridion (Post 1464398)
I’ll definitely do that. Thanks guys for helping me better my project. I will wait and save to use good parts. Sadly based on my attempt to sell my turbo on my local miata groups, I don’t think I’ll have luck selling my other things. If it’s okay with you guys I’d like to have this post deleted so that I can start an actual build thread (I found the sub-forum I should have posted on originally)

Keep the good attitude kid.
If it seems like we're being hard on you, it's because we know that stoking your ego and enabling your previous plan does more harm than good.
We're assholes because we care.

ryansmoneypit 01-30-2018 09:47 AM

Save that old turbo. You might want it one day for some science experiment that doesn't involve cars..

WigglingWaffles 01-30-2018 10:24 AM

All i have to say is, basically if youre noob and you dont follow the path of
"learn about tuning -> MS -> tune -> injectors -> retune -> collect necessary turbo parts and knowlege -> install -> retune -> perfect tune -> chop SS/GT badge plebs"
youre gonna get flak around here.
yes, the "broke and boosted" setups work. But its not entirely reliable and you'll end up replacing the parts when you inevitably want to run more boost. You have a great attitude and seem willing to learn, dont spend money twice for the same end goal.

sixshooter 01-30-2018 11:30 AM

Most broke and boosted setups can't keep up with a v6 Camry.
Those that can keep up with a v6 Camry can't idle well and get less mileage than a 1980's full size pickup truck.
Ones that can beat a v6 Camry are few and have engines that don't last long.

Proper timing and fueling lets you tune for all the power, plenty of engine longevity, and off-boost economy.
And you are a computer guy so you will LOVE tuning!


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