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pschmidt 12-20-2007 07:01 PM

My build.
 
I've wanted a miata for 10 or so years now. I've always been into bikes, so I never had a chance to have another toy. October 10th that changed.

This is before:

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...ike2before.jpg

And after:

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...cident_001.jpg

The wife said no more bikes, with which I tend to agree (for the time being), so I picked up this '99:

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu..._001.sized.jpg

My daily driver is a 2001 Audi S4, and the last toy car was a '84 VW Rabbit with a 1.8T3/T4 swap. It put down over 300 to the front wheels depending on how well I could get the SDS to work. So, the Miata needs a little more power.

First things first though, in went the rollbar, suspension, and brakes.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata2_001.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_001.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_025.jpg

Simplifed pad changes.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_028.jpg


I got home today and had some packages on the front step.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_032.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_034.jpg

Nice stack of dimes.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_035.jpg

Potato.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_036.jpg

Neighbor pleaser.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_038.jpg

Beefy.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_041.jpg
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_042.jpg

Here's what'll keep pressures in check.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_033.jpg

And revs down once the 6 speed goes in.
http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_043.jpg

The SS manifold should be here from BEGI tomorrow. Now if the temperature would go up 10 degrees or so I'd get to turning wrenches.

I played a bunch of games stalling the Maryland Emissions people with the turbo rabbit, so now as soon as we register a car we get the emissions test notice. So much for it being on a two year random cycle. In this case I don't mind; I can get the car turbo'd and have two years before its up for emissions again.

More to come if anyone cares.

Pat

UrbanSoot 12-20-2007 07:03 PM

nice :)

Braineack 12-20-2007 07:11 PM

oh em gee!

Markp 12-20-2007 07:33 PM

Nice Man. Very Nice.

But where is the turbo (I mean the real one with a big compressor wheel!)


Mark

Dow.tom 12-20-2007 09:36 PM

nnice car, yeah i hear ya about the emissions. I'm currently fighting them..

cjernigan 12-20-2007 09:55 PM

One heck of a nice build.
Why does it look like your wastegate is going to be on top of your manifold, judging by your downpipe.

Joe Perez 12-20-2007 10:13 PM

I am sexually aroused right now.

cjernigan 12-20-2007 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 188309)
I am sexually aroused right now.

Get ready. I'll have a similar downpipe in January. I just won't have the disco, i'll have the T3 60 strapped to it.

teknikscian 12-20-2007 10:30 PM

not the R1!!!

i miss my track bike, damn expensive hobby.

great lookin pile of gear youre building up..

Saml01 12-20-2007 10:43 PM

Damn, thats a lot of shiny shit right thur.

cardriverx 12-20-2007 11:05 PM

wow, thats alot of expensive stuff. I wish I could afford that haha.

tabs604 12-21-2007 04:19 AM

great stuff. good bit of kit you got there.

Savington 12-21-2007 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 188309)
I am sexually aroused right now.

:riaa:

Nice setup. Seconding the curiosity on how the EWG mates up.

pschmidt 12-21-2007 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Markp (Post 188232)
Nice Man. Very Nice.

But where is the turbo (I mean the real one with a big compressor wheel!)


Mark

That's on the drag car. SC61 at 32psi with a big old shot to spool it. We're presently working out the bugs with the Autronic after removing the SDS due to some funkyness controlling 1100 cc injectors. Hopefully moving away from a saturated injector will help with some drivability issues.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu..._IMG.sized.jpg

The wastegate should be to the driver's side of the turbo. I probably have the orientation of the downpipe a little off. I was having a few beers while taking inventory last night.

http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...o/P3180845.JPG

Saml01 12-21-2007 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 188438)
That's on the drag car. SC61 at 32psi with a big old shot to spool it. We're presently working out the bugs with the Autronic after removing the SDS due to some funkyness controlling 1100 cc injectors. Hopefully moving away from a saturated injector will help with some drivability issues.

[IMG]http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albums/Drag-Car/121_2175_IMG.sized.jpg[G]

The wastegate should be to the driver's side of the turbo. I probably have the orientation of the downpipe a little off. I was having a few beers while taking inventory last night.

http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...o/P3180845.JPG



I dont see how that downpipe is going to connect to that exhaust. Looks like the DP is designed to work with a log mani with the wastegate on top.

pschmidt 01-03-2008 08:04 PM

So far I got the clutch and transmission in. Definitely not the most fun but doable in a day. The six speed is a little weird how the shift pattern is laid out, but it seems to shift pretty well.

It's 20 degrees here right now so I did a test fit of the manifold/turbo/downpipe. Here's how it all sits.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata5_002.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata5_004.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata5_006.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata5_001.jpg


The car passed emissions testing today so let the games begin. :bigtu:

Braineack 01-03-2008 08:17 PM

did you add the wastegate "balance" tube?

pschmidt 01-03-2008 08:23 PM

That's how I got it from Begi. The pic of the manifold above the last post is from Begi's site.

Braineack 01-03-2008 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 193105)
That's how I got it from Begi. The pic of the manifold above the last post is from Begi's site.


ok gotcha. i thought you were cool or something.

Arkmage 01-03-2008 08:47 PM

that's pretty sexy stuff there... wish I had that kinda dough.

MazDilla 01-03-2008 08:55 PM

What's with the gigantor wastegate loop of doom arching up over the manifold?
Perhaps it's Corky's tribute to the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial?

Seriously though, whats the low down on it?

pschmidt 01-04-2008 08:19 AM

Looking at the manifold, there doesn't seem to be any other way to get exhaust from 3-4into the wastegate stream and maintain a reasonable wastegate placement.

As long as it works I don't care what it looks like. :) It'll be covered by the heatshield anyway.

TurboTim 01-04-2008 08:28 AM

Wow. that balance tube looks crazy. haha.

Nice build so far though. Sorry to hear about your R1.

pschmidt 01-04-2008 08:36 AM

Thanks man. I'm not sweating the R1 so much anymore. The traffic around here is getting so bad it was bound to happen at some point. I'm just glad I'm around and not in a wheelchair.

Now, should I install the Xede? I won't be slapping the turbo on for a couple of weeks until I can reserve some garage time. Is there any harm to installing the piggyback now to make sure everything is 100%?

Newbsauce 01-04-2008 08:38 AM

Nice build.. good to see someone else building up a nice setup. Keep us updated with pics. When you get it all finished come down to NOVA and dyno w/ the rest of us.

magnamx-5 01-04-2008 08:38 AM

Am i the only person who is wondering why he is using a AFC to fuel the turbo? if you spent that much coin on such nice stuff why not go with a more robust solution?

Newbsauce 01-04-2008 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 193383)
Am i the only person who is wondering why he is using a AFC to fuel the turbo? if you spent that much coin on such nice stuff why not go with a more robust solution?

Looks like the AVC-R boost controller. Not an S-AFC... I thought the same thing, but I can read because I am from a civilized state ;)

pschmidt 01-04-2008 08:50 AM

Yeah, it's an AVC-R.

pschmidt 01-04-2008 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 193382)
Nice build.. good to see someone else building up a nice setup. Keep us updated with pics. When you get it all finished come down to NOVA and dyno w/ the rest of us.

Will do. Where do you guys dyno? I usually go to APtuning up in Lebanon PA.

Newbsauce 01-04-2008 08:57 AM

Generally a place in Sterling.. we will be going again in march.

magnamx-5 01-04-2008 09:10 AM

:rly:OK but still MS pwns Apexi :rly:

Braineack 01-04-2008 09:36 AM

for tuning we go to classic GT motorsports in Manassas, for power pulls, we'd go to ferrari's custom car and truck in sterling.

pschmidt 01-04-2008 09:44 AM

I'm in for dynoing.

I'm trying to resist the urge to pull the car into my carport and start turning wrenches. It's almost above freezing...

I have today off waiting for a Direct TV installer. Saturday and Sunday are supposed to be pretty warm.

Stealth97 01-04-2008 09:45 AM

killer setup.

TurboTim 01-04-2008 10:15 AM

What about the delaware dyno place?

Newbsauce 01-04-2008 10:17 AM

Delaware is only good for no sales tax.. not dynoing! Real men dyno in VA. haha :)

elesjuan 01-04-2008 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 193096)

Guuuuuhhh.... :eek:


I feel your pain on the bike man. Haven't been on the street in over a year, track only for me. Didn't have a wreck *that* bad, but I've had a couple in my time. Lost dozens of friends to those god damn things, and I've yet to know anyone get seriously hurt on a track.

mazda/nissan 01-04-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 193401)
:rly:OK but still MS pwns Apexi :rly:

didn't you use an Apexi for fueling a while? :nono:

magnamx-5 01-04-2008 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 193717)
didn't you use an Apexi for fueling a while? :nono:

Wich is why i say MS pwns APexi :owned: :drama:

pschmidt 01-04-2008 07:58 PM

Xede and injectors are in. Intercooler and power steering cooler went in fine. Now I'm battling with the EGR nut. I'm going to give up for the night and get drunk.

Arkmage 01-04-2008 08:23 PM

anyone understand that purpose of the power steering cooler? does the fluid get hot enough to really justify it? what advantage does cooling the fluid provide? I just don't get it.

Stephanie Turner 01-04-2008 08:37 PM

The only purpose is to get it out of the way for the IC. :)
Doesn't work any better or worse than stock.
Stephanie

that7guy 01-04-2008 08:41 PM

MoCo Eh? Where Abootz?

Arkmage 01-04-2008 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Stephanie Turner (Post 193866)
The only purpose is to get it out of the way for the IC. :)
Doesn't work any better or worse than stock.
Stephanie

Works for me. Thanks for the answer.

pschmidt 01-07-2008 09:17 AM

Car's turbo'd. My hands are bloody and I have a huge knot over my eye.

pschmidt 01-07-2008 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by that7guy (Post 193870)
MoCo Eh? Where Abootz?

I'm in Rockville, right off of Aspen Hill road.

pschmidt 01-08-2008 12:14 PM

Getting there. A few more hours and I'll be good.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata6_010.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata6_011.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata6_006.jpg

Newbsauce 01-08-2008 12:31 PM

That a pretty damn sexy looking downpipe setup. I was a bit skeptical from the first pics, but installed it looks pretty nice.

saint_foo 01-10-2008 03:30 PM

Hi, I'm new to this site and am local to the D.C. region folks (Ashburn, VA). I've finally decided I'll probably turbo my 1997 Miata. I'm not sure which route to go. I've autocrossed it for a few years (STS2) and decided to get something a bit quicker.

I just got off the phone w/ Corky Bell and enjoyed talking to him. The main question I've got is, what system is preferred in this area (NOVA) where they do OBDII emissions testing? I run a piggyback on my 04 WRX wagon (UTEC). I am wondering if the Xede will pass such testing.

BTW, hope to meet some of you guys. I think I've met a few of you at some of the CDC autocrosses.

-Ed O'Donnell
saint_foo

Braineack 01-10-2008 03:34 PM

xede will pass odbII. one of the only good solutions that will.

you've probably seen me at a CDC event. or possibly will soon.

saint_foo 01-10-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 197079)
xede will pass odbII. one of the only good solutions that will.

you've probably seen me at a CDC event. or possibly will soon.



Are you Matt (friends w/ Kyle Bowker)? I run the Montego Blue miata w/ usually 2 co-drivers.:) I'm one of the organizers.

Braineack 01-10-2008 03:42 PM

nope, scott, but friends with kyle. see miata in my sig. sorta.

chriscar 01-10-2008 03:43 PM

OOOh, that's some mechanical porn right there. Subscribing because I have a GT28RS on the shelf, as well as an AVCR and a Tial 50, so I want to see how this all works out for you. Are you running the .86 or .64 hotside on the spud? And what exhaust is that?

C

saint_foo 01-10-2008 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 197082)
nope, scott, but friends with kyle. see miata in my sig. sorta.

ahhh, you're REV2RED. Good to meet you! :)

pschmidt 01-11-2008 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by chriscar (Post 197083)
OOOh, that's some mechanical porn right there. Subscribing because I have a GT28RS on the shelf, as well as an AVCR and a Tial 50, so I want to see how this all works out for you. Are you running the .86 or .64 hotside on the spud? And what exhaust is that?

C


.86. I picked up the exhaust through BEGI, but it came from Enthuza.

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Miata3_037.jpg


As an update, I have the car 95% buttoned up. I need some fittings for the WG, and a couple bolts and it should be drivable.

Last night I got the AVC-R in, hooked up the wideband to the new exhaust, wired the EGT and a couple of miscellaneous things. One thing I forgot to do is fill up with 93 octane before tearing the car apart. I'm guess I'll drain the tank tonight and dump it in the wife's Gti. It's direct injection, it won't care:).

One question: How long should it take the fans to cycle on once? I swapped the thermostat, so I realize it'll run a little cooler, but I haven't seen them pop on once. Granted, it is 50 degrees outside and I've only let the car run for under 10 minutes, but it has me worried a bit.

cjernigan 01-11-2008 06:05 PM

It might take up to 20 minutes. They have to reach 207-210 to turn on so if you dropped it to a 180* thermostat that might take a while if it's just idling.

pschmidt 05-28-2008 05:19 PM

An update:

The car's been running pretty well although I'm still getting a boatload of boost creep up top. One of these days it's going to pop the motor running 14+ psi on the stock internals.

Once that motor gives up I have a shorblock out of a 94 that I'm tearing down and will throw in rods, pistons, and a little crank work.


The Exede is working well, and is relatively easy to tune. The stock map was pegging the wideband at 10.2 at full throttle. That's been tuned down to run light 11s all the way to redline.

Here are some pics of the progress:


http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_004.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_005.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_006.jpg

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu...Vacuum_001.jpg


Got a little too excited coming out of a corner and went agricultural:

http://patrickschmidt.baked.net/albu.../Scoop_002.jpg


Does anyone know of a local shop (MD) to do a 3.63 install? I just need them to do the guts; R&R of the diff is no problem. Anyone heard of the work Meathead raciing does? They seem to be big in the spec miata community. These 4.30s have got to go in a big way.

cjernigan 05-28-2008 08:32 PM

Looks likes things are holding up well. Just because I'm lazy, are the fittings in the Tial WG and BOV 1/8 NPT? I think I can get hose and those fittings from work and I would much prefer that over rubber line.
What EBC solenoid is that as well?

UrbanSoot 05-28-2008 11:34 PM

oooooooo... sex!

18psi 05-29-2008 12:18 AM

wow man...your build is teh secks.....much respect


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