Is my front undertray too long?
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I think rleete was refering to Dzus fasteners.
McMaster-Carr sells them. Can also get them through other places, but I'm not sure if you can find them in the average auto parts store.
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Yes, that's the type of thing I was thinking. But, Dzus is a brand; one among several. I mostly use Southco at work, but they're all pretty much the same.
McMaster-Carr sells them. Can also get them through other places, but I'm not sure if you can find them in the average auto parts store.
McMaster-Carr sells them. Can also get them through other places, but I'm not sure if you can find them in the average auto parts store.
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I have a few questions about undertrays.
1. Is plastic really the best material to use? Doesnt it get hot in that area?
2. Is this -only- to to increase the effectiveness of the radiator/cooling system?
3. Does it noticably reduce drag?
4. What is the rear-most part of the undertray connected to?
5. What, if any, are other noticeable effects of the undertray?
Would these work to hold it on if they are fit tight?
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro....asp?RecID=779
BTW sorry to thread-jack.
1. Is plastic really the best material to use? Doesnt it get hot in that area?
2. Is this -only- to to increase the effectiveness of the radiator/cooling system?
3. Does it noticably reduce drag?
4. What is the rear-most part of the undertray connected to?
5. What, if any, are other noticeable effects of the undertray?
Would these work to hold it on if they are fit tight?
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro....asp?RecID=779
BTW sorry to thread-jack.
Last edited by icantthink4155; 02-05-2009 at 12:42 PM.
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I would like to know and see some data about reduced drag and more efficient cooling as well. Looks like it would be a fun project. Have you guys ever considered putting a triangular shaped piece in front of the front wheels to curve it around them? I read some article about trays and this on a prius and I think I remember something like 33% of the drag in the front is from your front wheels. If you have a splitter does the undertray still help reduce drag?
Found the article here, you guys should check it out. It's definitely a cool read.
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ABS Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene
Indicates melting point is a little over 200 degrees F which isn't really out of the question is it? especially if the tray ends up in contaact with some hot pipe or something?
Another site says maximum "service temperature" is 185 degrees.. Wikipedia says the heat from a "wood fire" can cause it to boil and light up in a spectacular way
I need to build an undertray soon to, but i'm wondering if there's a different material more suitable. Aside from the sharp edges, what's the downside to aluminum?
-Tomaj
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I've had no problem with my ABS undertray. It doesn't come in contact with any really hot parts but it is close to the downpipe. I haven't noticed any heat damage to the tray though.
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Back on to the subject of the LC-1. I thought that you weren't supposed to mount them below horizontal otherwise moisture would condense and ruin the sensor. Just something to think about if you can rotate that pipe.
Not to mention it would increase the clearance for the awesome undertray. I'm definitely putting this on my list of things to do. I like reddroptop's idea of using aluminium but can I justify the extra weight or more importantly the extra cost!!
Not to mention it would increase the clearance for the awesome undertray. I'm definitely putting this on my list of things to do. I like reddroptop's idea of using aluminium but can I justify the extra weight or more importantly the extra cost!!
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ABS is commonly used for under the hood applications. In fact I am making my undertray/splitter/ducting out of ABS right now as well. I plan on posting pictures when it is complete.
ABS is also what most factory sport bike body panels are made out of; they see a lot of heat too. Typically there is only a couple of inches between a body panel and the engine and/or exhaust.
ABS is also what most factory sport bike body panels are made out of; they see a lot of heat too. Typically there is only a couple of inches between a body panel and the engine and/or exhaust.
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Yeah sorry been busy dealing with the engine rebuild and the LS1 car. The splitter is in and working great. I have had it over 100 mph and it stayed put. I'll get some pictures up as soon as I can.
I will also be making another one for the LS1 car soon. That one will be track tested, and will be larger as well, with more forward protrusion.
I will also be making another one for the LS1 car soon. That one will be track tested, and will be larger as well, with more forward protrusion.
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ZX-Tex, are you also planning on having the splitter stick out or will it just line up with the bumper?
Also will the bottom part of it be from the same piece or will they be cut separately (like splitter made from 1/4" abs and 1/8" for the undertray)?
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