General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Was this NB in a collision ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-26-2020, 07:00 PM
  #1  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
JustinD2473's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 19
Total Cats: 11
Default Was this NB in a collision ?

I bought my first Miata at the end of last year and have been collecting parts for a Kswap and disassembling the car slowly since then.

I am at the point where I'd like to repaint the car before starting on the swap. I was about to start removing EVERYTHING from the engine bay so that I could do a color change and I started noticing what I think is evidence that this car was in a collision at some point.

Let me know what you think and how bad do you think it is. Car drove fine before with the Miata engine....but I also can't say I was being THAT critical at the time.

There are multiple dents in the engine bay, circled in yellow.
There is a good amount of a soft/gooey substance at the bottom of the passenger side shock tower brace.
There are 4 small holes drilled on the inside of the fender wall under where the windshield wiper motor is.
The sheet metal underneath the driver side fender is wrinkled.







JustinD2473 is offline  
Old 06-26-2020, 09:39 PM
  #2  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

Yes wrecked and horribly repaired. Like "monkey with a hammer and tube of silicone" horrible
18psi is offline  
Old 06-26-2020, 10:10 PM
  #3  
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,664
Total Cats: 3,013
Default

It's been wrecked. That driver's inner fender top, wow. And the dent pull weld pin marks on the passenger side inner fender. I bet it will take your breath away if you loosen those ~8ish bolts and pull the fender off and look behind it. I'd do both sides and see what you are working with since you've gone this far stripping it.
sixshooter is online now  
Old 06-27-2020, 10:19 PM
  #4  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
borka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,552
Total Cats: 196
Default

Id put it back together and sell it, and buy a non damaged one.

with the amount of money/effort it takes to kswap, i would start with a clean shell.

nice rollers can be had for under $1k with blown engines on craigslist.
borka is offline  
Old 06-28-2020, 11:48 AM
  #5  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
JustinD2473's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 19
Total Cats: 11
Default

Putting it back together isn't an option. Motor, header, exhaust were sold. But I did get vmaxx coilovers, hard dog roll bar w/ harness bar, racing beat sway bar/end links, aftermarket wheels, and aluminum radiator out of the deal if I decide to look for a cleaner shell

Last edited by JustinD2473; 06-28-2020 at 12:00 PM.
JustinD2473 is offline  
Old 06-28-2020, 01:40 PM
  #6  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
miata2fast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Dover, FL
Posts: 3,143
Total Cats: 174
Default

I personally would check to see if all suspension components are square, do some stitch welding where the folded sheet metal comes together on both sides of the engine bay, paint and go to town on your build.
miata2fast is offline  
Old 06-28-2020, 10:06 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Gee Emm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canberra, sort of
Posts: 1,090
Total Cats: 184
Default

Been down this road, mine not so bad though. Seconding getting it checked for square on a chassis rig. Have a close look at both subframes, for both damage and/or modz to make them fit a not-square chassis. The latter was the give-away for mine.

If it is a track car with a full cage, structural rigidity will not be an issue. A road car with a half cage, or nothing, not so sure what effect those 'repairs' would have on chassis dynamics.

If your budget can stand it, the quickest and surest way to a trouble-free build with full peace of mind would be a new (straight) shell.
Gee Emm is offline  
Old 06-29-2020, 11:33 AM
  #8  
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,664
Total Cats: 3,013
Default

The subframe bolts to the sheet metal chassis. The sheet metal chassis looks like it was really bent where the two come together. Therefore it is very suspect. I would look further for a good chassis.
sixshooter is online now  
Old 06-29-2020, 11:56 AM
  #9  
Elite Member
 
codrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 5,168
Total Cats: 856
Default

Originally Posted by JustinD2473
Putting it back together isn't an option. Motor, header, exhaust were sold. But I did get vmaxx coilovers, hard dog roll bar w/ harness bar, racing beat sway bar/end links, aftermarket wheels, and aluminum radiator out of the deal if I decide to look for a cleaner shell
Theoretically you could buy a non-crashed car, swap the motor/etc out of that into this one, sell this one, and build the non-crashed one.

IMHO once a car has been crashed that hard it's never the same. I would not use that one as a starting point for a build.

--ian
codrus is offline  
Old 06-29-2020, 12:01 PM
  #10  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Stealth97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Canton, Ga
Posts: 2,156
Total Cats: 66
Default

Originally Posted by sixshooter
The subframe bolts to the sheet metal chassis. The sheet metal chassis looks like it was really bent where the two come together. Therefore it is very suspect. I would look further for a good chassis.
this.

if sheetmetal around subframe is bent... consider subframe compromised
Stealth97 is offline  
Old 11-09-2020, 08:40 PM
  #11  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
JustinD2473's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 19
Total Cats: 11
Default

between COVID & being busy at work the Kmiata project took a backseat....since the car was wrecked and there is some shady looking repairs in the engine bay I'm going this route....should be shipping this week. Just got done at powder coat.

JustinD2473 is offline  
Old 11-10-2020, 07:20 AM
  #12  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Godless Commie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Posts: 3,214
Total Cats: 1,687
Default

I can confirm this one is not wrecked.
Godless Commie is offline  
Old 11-11-2020, 08:14 PM
  #13  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
JustinD2473's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 19
Total Cats: 11
Default

Originally Posted by Godless Commie
I can confirm this one is not wrecked.
I'll do my best to keep it that way
JustinD2473 is offline  
Old 11-12-2020, 08:39 AM
  #14  
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Efini~FC3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,310
Total Cats: 98
Default

ITT: How to properly make lemonade when handed a bucket of shitty lemons...
Efini~FC3S is online now  
Old 11-12-2020, 08:56 PM
  #15  
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
ericsbestshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Navarre, Fl
Posts: 280
Total Cats: 8
Default

I totally appove of your solution!
ericsbestshot is offline  
Old 01-23-2021, 05:46 PM
  #16  
Newb
 
prestosamsung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13
Total Cats: 0
Default

A K-swap in an Exocet frame? This will decimate all, after you put about 15 grand in it.
prestosamsung is offline  
Old 01-23-2021, 06:26 PM
  #17  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
JustinD2473's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 19
Total Cats: 11
Default

Originally Posted by prestosamsung
A K-swap in an Exocet frame? This will decimate all, after you put about 15 grand in it.
If I have to overnight parts from Japan...
JustinD2473 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hedtrip
Build Threads
19
09-22-2020 11:00 PM
Senpai90Miata
MEGAsquirt
0
04-07-2020 11:46 PM
spitfun
Cars for sale/trade
22
07-03-2019 02:31 PM
Spyroskard84
DIY Turbo Discussion
0
02-01-2019 12:42 AM
Philosopher
Meet and Greet
15
01-23-2017 06:23 PM



Quick Reply: Was this NB in a collision ?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:38 AM.