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levnubhin 06-18-2009 12:00 PM

plug the egr port and jump on the china charger wagon.
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miatauser884 06-18-2009 12:02 PM

Quick, someone find me a rock so that I can crawl under it. :facepalm:

miatauser884 06-18-2009 12:03 PM

levnubin: Where did you purchase your chinacharger?

gospeed81 06-18-2009 12:12 PM

Holy shit, at least most of it was a simple fix.

I can't see the pictures here at work, so I get to laugh again(harder) when I get home.

Good luck getting the most out of it djp.

levnubhin 06-18-2009 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 420857)
levnubin: Where did you purchase your chinacharger?

ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5015&viewitem=


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 420860)
Holy shit, at least most of it was a simple fix.

I can't see the pictures here at work, so I get to laugh again(harder) when I get home.

Good luck getting the most out of it djp.

There aren't any pics, at least none that I can see.
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Braineack 06-18-2009 12:25 PM

his pics are hosted through this site, you should be able to see it....

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/mem...ms/100/380.jpg

Braineack 06-18-2009 12:41 PM

ok i figured it out, djp the n00b had his album set to private.

gospeed81 06-18-2009 12:51 PM

Oh...yeah...there's a hole in the top of the manifold!

Most of use complain when we get flange interface leaks at the flange right after that hole...you've got a ~1/4" leak there. From what I've read, air pressure is between 20-30 psi there, so that's like having a missing valve stem. I imagine a lot of air comes out of there fast, and could surely be robbing you of 30-50hp.

cueball1 06-18-2009 01:04 PM

Not to pile on but didn't that massive exhaust leak coming from that hole clue you, they dyno guys, your friends, etc. that something wasn't right? Even with that, seeing 17psi it's likely effecting spool up more than top end. Pretty obvious you've moved outside the efficiency range of that turbo. Diminishing returns doing that.

Have you run a bolt into that opening yet? Curious what difference you might get out of that.

hustler 06-18-2009 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 420853)
yes, it's just open like that. Showing just how much of a newb I am. It came like that, and I didn't realize something was supposed to go there.

oh my fucking god. Please tell me you're not pro-creating. Please.



if you have even a tiny DP leak at the turbo power will fall off significantly.

miatauser884 06-18-2009 02:36 PM

Pro creation already acomplished. World, get ready for a wild ride.

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/mem...ms/100/382.jpg

quick fix at lunch

gospeed81 06-18-2009 02:41 PM

notice a difference?

miatauser884 06-18-2009 02:44 PM

Haven't driven it yet. Will know tonight on drive home.

miatauser884 06-18-2009 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 420881)
Not to pile on but didn't that massive exhaust leak coming from that hole clue you, they dyno guys, your friends, etc. that something wasn't right? Even with that, seeing 17psi it's likely effecting spool up more than top end. Pretty obvious you've moved outside the efficiency range of that turbo. Diminishing returns doing that.

Have you run a bolt into that opening yet? Curious what difference you might get out of that.

This is what I don't understand. I would expect to hear an obvious and massive hissing when the car was on the dyno, but I didn't. I would expect to hear something even when the car is idling, I didn't. That pisses me off because I just had the car tuned ($300). I'll see what differnece it makes in the butt test before I pull the boost down from 16psi.

Braineack 06-18-2009 03:03 PM

did the port go all the way through? don't see any signs of exhaust coming from it. be careful of over boost if so.

miatauser884 06-18-2009 03:15 PM

It didn't look like it went straight through, but I couldn't confirm that it was blocked off. LAter tonight I'll take the bolt out and try sticking some wire through there to see if there really was exhaust leaking through

pdexta 06-18-2009 03:38 PM

I doubt it went all the way though, seems like you would know if it did. I would think a leak like that would make plenty of noise and the entire enginebay would be black.

cueball1 06-18-2009 05:29 PM

Noise and the constant smell of exhaust in the car would have been tip offs.

miatauser884 06-18-2009 05:33 PM

Seems pretty clear that the hole doesn't go all the way though since I never experienced any of the above problems. I think in the next couple of months I'll jump on the china charger bandwagon.


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