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IcantDo55 05-22-2012 10:03 AM

Need opinions on keeping this MazdaSpeed I got
 
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Won this at storage unit auction. Good price too. What do I do with it??? Body is about an 8 out of 10, typical parking lot dings, top is excellent, interior is in good shape...missing the motor. :vash: Its not broken it is not :vash:in the car. I did get the 6-speed tho.

I've been searching the web and these cars are worth a lot in parts so should I part it or try and rebuild it as a stock mazda speed (knowing how hard and expensive its going to be to find all the missing bits and motor)to sell or just toss a 01-05 VVT motor in it sell my 2000DD and pimp this car NA, in till future turbo mod.

I have seen all the extra bracing and aero on the underside of the car, cool stuff.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1337695398

18psi 05-22-2012 10:13 AM

I'd say keep it. That color looks fantastic, the interiors on them are nice, the extra bracing is neat, etc.

HOWEVER,

The wiring and ecu will most likely have to be swapped to make the 00 motor work on it.

So might not be worth the trouble.

Reverant 05-22-2012 10:17 AM

Keep the car, throw the 2000 engine in it for now, turbo it later on, sell the 2000 as a rolling shell or part it out. You can get an ECU from me so that you won't have to swap the harness/ECU/keys etc from the 2000.

18psi 05-22-2012 10:21 AM

/\ Or that:)

hustler 05-22-2012 10:22 AM

Make it a daily driver, I don't think those make good track cars because they are too heavy and too nice.

IcantDo55 05-22-2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 880276)
Keep the car, throw the 2000 engine in it for now, turbo it later on, sell the 2000 as a rolling shell or part it out. You can get an ECU from me so that you won't have to swap the harness/ECU/keys etc from the 2000.

I'm thinking of selling the 2000 as is. Good 2001-2005 motors are cheep.

So think you can make a MS that would PNP a 2001-2005 motor in the MSM with out harness swap?

Price?

Braineack 05-22-2012 10:25 AM

I'll trade you my 92 body without motor for that...


or PM me a price on the body.

18psi 05-22-2012 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 880282)
I'm thinking of selling the 2000 as is. Good 2001-2005 motors are cheep.

So think you can make a MS that would PNP a 2001-2005 motor in the MSM with out harness swap?

Price?

This sounds like a GOOD IDEA.
All the MSM goodies + VVT.

win win

Reverant 05-22-2012 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 880282)
I'm thinking of selling the 2000 as is. Good 2001-2005 motors are cheep.

So think you can make a MS that would PNP a 2001-2005 motor in the MSM with out harness swap?

Price?

The two reasons I suggested you use your own 2000 engine is because a) you know it is in good condition and b) you won't have to pay extra for a VVT controller to use the VVT. I'm PMing you on the MS setup.

Reverant 05-22-2012 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 880282)
Price?

Your PM inbox is full.

IcantDo55 05-22-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 880290)
Your PM inbox is full.

If someone here could fix my "supporter status" I would have access to my PM's. Been a paying supporter for three years and now it dropped me. There is a thread about these problems in front desk forum. I'm not going to delete 500 PM's so I can be under the 25 limit.... anyway.

REV just email me please.

Mike@icantdo55.com

Reverant 05-22-2012 12:40 PM

Email sent.

fmowry 05-23-2012 08:11 AM

When FM is looking for donors for customers to do a V8 swap, they are recommending MSMs so you could contact them and see if they are looking and see what the buyer would offer.

Or sell it to me.

mr_hyde 05-28-2012 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 880281)
Make it a daily driver, I don't think those make good track cars because they are too heavy and too nice.

^^This. With that understood, there are a lot of guys who have replaced the hot side on their MSMs with a real turbo :giggle: so you should be able to source that. We all gut the OEM intake/exhaust for the FM little enchilada. Did you get the diff and half shafts? They are special. The motor isn't special but some bits like the oil pan and bungs for the oil & water to the turbo are unique.

How is the title on a car like this (storage auction)? If it is clean and you can put it back close to stock they are selling for $12k all day long.

Faeflora 05-28-2012 12:30 AM

i will buy the transmission. or do cash plus trade a six speed. how many miles?

IcantDo55 05-28-2012 08:39 AM

No idea on mileage yet, have not put a battery in it. This week is crunch time for BABERally.com

samnavy 05-28-2012 09:03 AM

Are you going to be the next big thing on "Storage Wars"?

Fireindc 05-30-2012 10:57 AM

Damn! I'd build that up as a nice street car for sure.. How much did you pay? And do you want to sell it ? ;)

imran5 06-06-2012 11:50 AM

I'd say keep it, but what do I know, just a n00b - had to get rid of my MSM recently, not because I wanted to but because life threw some things at me which required a revisiting of priorities - plus, mine was heavily modded and my daily driver - not so good since I easily clear 1,500 to 2,000 miles a month, mostly in rush hour traffic >:|

There's a guy here in dfw selling the motor/tranny out of his Miata for 800 for the motor or 1200 if you want both - its listed in craigslist, not sure if it is up here in the forum. Not turbo, but a start...

OR, you could always put an LS1 in there

hustler 06-06-2012 01:19 PM

I'd put a 3.63 in that bitch and flauce on the way to work every day with the top dropped, holler back, "money aint a thang".

IcantDo55 05-04-2013 03:26 AM

Well after a year of DMV BULLSHIT I finally have a clean title for this car. Let the building begin!

Got ahold of a 2000 short block. Some pistons and rods are on the near future list than machine shop. Glad to finally have a direction for this car. For a while there I thought I would have to just part it out.

I'm thinking.....EFR.....

IcantDo55 05-13-2013 03:19 AM

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So I decided to just build a piston/rod build a 2000 shortblock I have here an than I see on a local page a guy I know around here that has a 2004 Mazda speed has just got hit in the back and its totaled. Guess who bought the total.....this guy.

So now I have a 93K running mazdaspeed. Don't know much about these motors except they are non VVT on an 04?

So any benefits to building the 04 Mazdaspeed block or is the bottom end the same?

What head is it? 99-00?

Does it have setup for oil drainback and feed already?

To reroute or not to reroute?

Goals will be 300whp street car.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1368429545

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Ryan_G 05-13-2013 08:01 AM

It has better cams. The head is a 99-00 head and besides the turbo plumbing the rest is pretty much the same. I would do the reroute but make sure to use the 94-97 head gasket.

supercooper 05-13-2013 10:00 AM

thats badass man... that car doesnt look TOO damaged either.. i know i cant see the whole thing by the pics, but im surprised they totalled it. lol

Sploinkin 05-13-2013 02:37 PM

Not sure if he took anything off, but here is the FS thread for that red MSM on CR.
ClubRoadster.net

Not much in performance upgrades listed but a few extras that might be nice.

concealer404 05-13-2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 880275)
I'd say keep it. That color looks fantastic, the interiors on them are nice, the extra bracing is neat, etc.

HOWEVER,

The wiring and ecu will most likely have to be swapped to make the 00 motor work on it.

So might not be worth the trouble.



Why so? It's pretty much got a 99-00 motor in it already.

I know it's got that transponder BS or whatever it is that makes my red "key" light flash at me all the time in mine, but i also don't know exactly how that stuff works.



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Sorry... just double-checked post date, my bad.

mr_hyde 05-13-2013 09:53 PM

The MSM 6 speed is worth more than a normal 6 speed and the motor is basically a 99/00 but with a BP4W head and VTCS instead of VICS. The block has oil and coolant bungs for the turbo. The pan has a spot for an oil drain already and you can't beat the +5whp provided by the sexy oil cap. The red cam cover sucks for COP retrofits but the OEM half-COP setup isn't too bad for <15psi.

You have an embarrassment or riches going on - especially if you paid book for that wreck. I've done that and I generally feel like a dick charging anyone for a part off it considering it pretty much funded my whole build. :giggle:

The damage on the red MSM doesn't look like a total. Can you post more pics?

Tekel 05-13-2013 10:37 PM

Crap. Nice snag on both of those. Sounds like you will have a full functioning MSM for cheap. Following this.

timk 05-14-2013 01:33 AM

I have an MSM head in my 99, the coolant passages on the MSM head are the same as the VVT heads.

Also the bottom end has a mains support brace.

IcantDo55 05-14-2013 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by supercooper (Post 1011188)
thats badass man... that car doesnt look TOO damaged either.. i know i cant see the whole thing by the pics, but im surprised they totalled it. lol

Kid had is slammed for years and the undercarriage shows it, I'm sure that was taken into account when it was totaled.



Originally Posted by mr_hyde (Post 1011391)
The MSM 6 speed is worth more than a normal 6 speed and the motor is basically a 99/00 but with a BP4W head and VTCS instead of VICS. The block has oil and coolant bungs for the turbo. The pan has a spot for an oil drain already and you can't beat the +5whp provided by the sexy oil cap. The red cam cover sucks for COP retrofits but the OEM half-COP setup isn't too bad for <15psi.

You have an embarrassment or riches going on - especially if you paid book for that wreck. I've done that and I generally feel like a dick charging anyone for a part off it considering it pretty much funded my whole build. :giggle:

The damage on the red MSM doesn't look like a total. Can you post more pics?

Oil drain back is in the pan or the block on the 1.6l? I got it for a good deal, considering all the parts there to sell. Is the 6-speed different than the "normal" AE and LS 6-speeds? Never heard that before. An the oil cap is baller!


Originally Posted by timk (Post 1011438)
I have an MSM head in my 99, the coolant passages on the MSM head are the same as the VVT heads.

Also the bottom end has a mains support brace.

So same passages as the VVT? So what HG? To reroute or not to reroute.

mr_hyde 05-14-2013 11:39 PM

Oil drains are almost always in the pan. The MSM 6 speed have shot peened gears or so the legend goes. If you sell it, proudly advertise the MSM heritage and hold out for a good price with a comma in it.


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