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wes65 03-23-2008 06:13 PM

New clutch still slipping
 
So, i recently installed a begi s1 with 460cc injectors and the clutch started slipping. There is a shop around here that sells clutches and the guy said it would be good to 300lb/ft. however, after replacing the clutch it still slips at around 8 psi. Any ideas? I mean, unless it is something else. When i put it to the floor it accelerates to around 3k-4k and then the rpms shoot way up and im not going any faster. It doesnt feel like wheelspin. Could it be an adjustment issue? My flywheel looked good so i didnt have it resurfaced. The original clutch had 63k miles on it.

Thanks in advance.
-Wes

Doppelgänger 03-23-2008 06:15 PM

do you have a fidanza flywheel??

wes65 03-23-2008 06:23 PM

stock flywheel

Doppelgänger 03-23-2008 06:25 PM

could be warped...unless you had it resurfaced when you had the new clutch installed. Did you just buy a new clutch disk or did you replace the pressure plate too?

wes65 03-23-2008 06:29 PM

i bought a new pressure plate and clutch disc. Did not have the flywheel resurfaced.

hustler 03-23-2008 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by wes65 (Post 232302)
i bought a new pressure plate and clutch disc. Did not have the flywheel resurfaced.

i've been down this road before. You fucked up.

patsmx5 03-23-2008 07:47 PM

Meh, I doubt it's the flywheel. Could be, but usually that will cause lots of shudder. Is engagement smooth? Try adjusting the pedal. There's a writeup on m.net.

urgaynknowit 03-23-2008 07:50 PM

My flywheel looked good so i didnt have it resurfaced.**********

thats ur problem

bryantaylor 03-23-2008 08:12 PM

what kind of clutch. you said local place did it, we have a place that does it here too. if its like our place its a 4 puc and a stock pressure plate, am i on the right trac? if so, did you brake it in? be honest, because you HAVE to brake in those ceramic clutches easy or it will slip like you descirbed

urgaynknowit 03-23-2008 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 232338)
what kind of clutch. you said local place did it, we have a place that does it here too. if its like our place its a 4 puc and a stock pressure plate, am i on the right trac? if so, did you brake it in? be honest, because you HAVE to brake in those ceramic clutches easy or it will slip like you descirbed

if it was one of those, those stink to drive around in town
the break in period on those is stupid also

ask the shop, then come back to us

bryantaylor 03-23-2008 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by urgaynknowit (Post 232341)
if it was one of those, those stink to drive around in town
the break in period on those is stupid also

i never had a problem with the one i had, even had it re-pucked once. 500 miles is all i broke mine in for :dunno:

urgaynknowit 03-23-2008 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 232346)
i never had a problem with the one i had, even had it re-pucked once. 500 miles is all i broke mine in for :dunno:

my break in period included me pulling out of the driveway
revving it and doing the longest burn out
enjoying my hard work

ive done this on all the cars ive owned,
i did this with my swapped civic,
and i put thousands of miles on it


thats my idea of "breaking it in" :bowrofl:


i honestly would suggest having ur flywheel resurfaced. and or, ask the guy at the shop , to show u the specs for the clutch, so u know hes not just bluffin

wes65 03-23-2008 09:38 PM

The clutch pedal is very easy to press down, like, easier than stock. The guy at the shop said that it was a "dual friction" and the two sides of the disc looked different. One looked like the stock one and one side was a "button" face. I asked him about break in and he said that it didnt need to be broken in.

cardriverx 03-23-2008 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by wes65 (Post 232370)
The clutch pedal is very easy to press down, like, easier than stock. The guy at the shop said that it was a "dual friction" and the two sides of the disc looked different. One looked like the stock one and one side was a "button" face. I asked him about break in and he said that it didnt need to be broken in.

hes half right. The side that looks stock (organic face) NEEDS BREAK IN. The other side was prob ceramic, what doesent need break in (for all the haters, check ACTs site, they tell you their ceramic and sintered iron clutches dont need break in.)

FYI I have a ceramic disc, took it easy for about 2 miles, and beat on it a little. Grabs perfect 7k miles later.

Mikado 03-23-2008 09:42 PM

Did you remove the glazing on the flywheel?
This at least should have been done. The clutch is just another form of a brake. Just as the disks need to have the glazing removed for new pads to work best, so does the flywheel.
I don't think it is the clutch adjustment, but just to make sure- release the hydrolic fluid in the slave and pump it up again.

patsmx5 03-23-2008 09:44 PM

IMO, you have to break in all clutches. Maybe there's an exception, but I always break them in. That's probably your problem. I take break in seriously. If it says 500 miles, that doesn't mean 450, or 480.

The pressure plate being softer than stock is not good. That sucks. If anything, you want it stiffer for more clamping force. Did you or the shop install the clutch? When does it engage/disengage relative to the pedal? (does it grab an inch off the floor or really high, like right before you take your foot off?)

wes65 03-23-2008 09:45 PM

i installed the clutch, im not sure on the engagement/disengagement, i have somewhere to go, so i will drive the car right now and see how it is.

bryantaylor 03-23-2008 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 232379)
IMO, you have to break in all clutches. Maybe there's an exception, but I always break them in. That's probably your problem. I take break in seriously. If it says 500 miles, that doesn't mean 450, or 480.

+1. some thing need a "hard break in" but a clutch is deff not one of those things.

also pedal feel has nothing to do with the plate pressure. on my probe, the comp clutch PP i had was a tad softer pedal than the stock PP i had. comp was i think 1800lbs and stock was something like 1000-1200 lbs.

wes65 03-23-2008 10:27 PM

the pp is supposed to be a 1200lb one, what is the stock one?

wes65 03-24-2008 08:39 AM

the disengagement feels very smooth and is about 1/4 of the way down


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