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Doppelgänger 12-20-2010 12:49 PM

A new fastback top coming to the Miata market....
 
I figured I let you guys in on a little secret. I was recently contected by someone who is designing and building a fastback top that will hopefully one-up Autokenexion's current offering. I don't know what details I am not to giveaway, but I will quite what is currently on the website they're setting up to display it soon.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5048/...44819fe5_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5081/...90dd963c_o.jpg
http://www.warhorseperformance.com/


Originally Posted by Warhorse Performance
Warhorse Performance Miata hatchback hard top

100% made in the USA by fiberglass professionals with 30+ years experience.

COMING SPRING 2011
The picture above is an accurate artistic rendering. The first prototype is nearly finished and pictures will be coming soon.

The first version will be a fiberglass top for the NB Miata (NA will follow shortly, and then NC) complete with lexan windows, window seals and attaching hardware. We will have 1 or 2 available removeable ducktail spoiler designs and the top will be designed for mounting an APR or similar competition wing. The top is designed to work with rear decklid completely removed and will function as a true hatchback using the trunk release mechanism.

Pricing will depend on level of trim and options. Initial estimates put an unpainted (black or grey gel coat) but complete ready to bolt on and go OEM quality top complete with weather ready lexan and door window seals, mounting hardware and hatch hinges for less then the price of an OEM top. Bare fiberglass tops will also be available for the DIY racer, as well as any configuration in between. We hope to be ready to ship the first "bare" tops by the end of March 2011 and complete tops in April or May. Wet and/or Dry carbon version are also in the works.

NA, NB and NC tops should all be very similar, possibly with minor changes to the shapes of the side windows to better compliment the different body styles. We will be looking for a NC to borrow for approximately a month.

This hatchback top is only the beginning for us, more will follow.

I'm hoping to help get the word out there for everyone to see and for them to get some feedback on. Who knows, we might even see Hippo rocking one of these as well. Remember that the picture is just a rendering and that any completes version will likely look a little different. The BIG PLUS to this that I see is the functional hatch...not having to remove the rear section to access the trunk like the Autokenexion piece. I have seen prototype pictures of this as well....so don't think that it's jsut an idea in someones head, thay're actually doing this (I have been asked not to post up any of these pictures). After seeing the prototype pictures, I will say that they are "doing it right"...anyone who has ever build molds/bucks/prototype fiberflass or composite parts would know what I am talking about. I have a few opinions on parts of the design but I'll refrain from posting that because I want to see if anyone else is thinking what I am thinking.

WonTon 12-20-2010 01:02 PM

i dont like the side window (the lower line needs to mimic the arch of the rear 1/4) and the hight of the end of the hatch is to high, lil lower and will it will be perfect!

the rest looks tits to me!

Sean 12-20-2010 01:16 PM

I know its just a sketch but I want one. The miata looks amazing in a fastback.

Braineack 12-20-2010 01:47 PM

buy an rx7.

18psi 12-20-2010 01:50 PM

they're not as gay therefore not as good

Bond 12-20-2010 01:50 PM

Window is wrong and it looks too tall on the trunk, like a miata-hearse

dstn2bdoa 12-20-2010 01:54 PM

Maybe, I'll hold off on buying a hardtop, I like what I see.

TravisR 12-20-2010 02:16 PM

This looks much more aerodynamic. I should model this and CFD it. :X



Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 671181)
I figured I let you guys in on a little secret. I was recently contected by someone who is designing and building a fastback top that will hopefully one-up Autokenexion's current offering. I don't know what details I am not to giveaway, but I will quite what is currently on the website they're setting up to display it soon.

http://www.imagelinkers.com/out.php/...ackconcept.jpg
http://www.warhorseperformance.com/



I'm hoping to help get the word out there for everyone to see and for them to get some feedback on. Who knows, we might even see Hippo rocking one of these as well. Remember that the picture is just a rendering and that any completes version will likely look a little different. The BIG PLUS to this that I see is the functional hatch...not having to remove the rear section to access the trunk like the Autokenexion piece. I have seen prototype pictures of this as well....so don't think that it's jsut an idea in someones head, thay're actually doing this (I have been asked not to post up any of these pictures). After seeing the prototype pictures, I will say that they are "doing it right"...anyone who has ever build molds/bucks/prototype fiberflass or composite parts would know what I am talking about. I have a few opinions on parts of the design but I'll refrain from posting that because I want to see if anyone else is thinking what I am thinking.


Doppelgänger 12-20-2010 02:31 PM

Yeah guys....things like the window placement...are something I am asking about and things he will be reading as feedback from you guys. Is it me, or do I see a lot of Jagual E-Type styling in the top slope?


Here...I did a quick job of moving the window forward a bit and contoured the bottom line-

http://www.imagelinkers.com/out.php/...onceptver2.jpg

neogenesis2004 12-20-2010 02:52 PM

Do they have any pics from their 30yrs of experience? Autokenexion supposedly has a bunch of XP too but his still had poor lines at the end of the day. Looks good in your last pic, but I'm not drinking the coolaid until I see a finished product this time.

mgeoffriau 12-20-2010 02:57 PM

Someone make a shooting brake style hardtop.

saint_foo 12-20-2010 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 671206)
buy an rx7.

...then you can stuff/retrofit a turbo'd Miata drivetrain into it! :giggle:










....LS-x, I know, I know.

y8s 12-20-2010 03:06 PM

I would honestly buy one if the top was 3 inches higher and allowed me to fit under it with a helmet. I'd then have hard dog custom make me a taller main hoop and pop that shit in for hours of enjoyment.

Doppelgänger 12-20-2010 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 671248)
Do they have any pics from their 30yrs of experience? Autokenexion supposedly has a bunch of XP too but his still had poor lines at the end of the day. Looks good in your last pic, but I'm not drinking the coolaid until I see a finished product this time.

Judging by the pictures I was sent of the prtototype being built, I'd say they know what they're talking about. Not to mention they're not outsourcing it some a manufacturer overseas like the other company had problems with.

Doppelgänger 12-20-2010 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 671255)
I would honestly buy one if the top was 3 inches higher and allowed me to fit under it with a helmet. I'd then have hard dog custom make me a taller main hoop and pop that shit in for hours of enjoyment.

I'm hoping he'll make it to fit over bars like my BF Double Maxx..that currently won't work with any hardtop :drool:. If it'll fit over the BF, it should be better for you as well.

leatherface24 12-20-2010 03:11 PM

Gee it looks exactly like the autokonexion fb. i wonder if they'll just make a mold of it and change it just a bit and then call it theirs.

Doppelgänger 12-20-2010 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 671261)
Gee it looks exactly like the autokonexion fb. i wonder if they'll just make a mold of it and change it just a bit and then call it theirs.

Most definitely is not. I can tell you that it's wider at the rear and doesn't look "pinched" like the AK fastback does. It's much wider like the NB coupe.

Autokonexion-
http://www.mazda-speed.com/albums/album312/Miata_7.jpg

neogenesis2004 12-20-2010 03:27 PM

Pics or it didn't happen.

Braineack 12-20-2010 03:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
FTFY

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1292876852

neogenesis2004 12-20-2010 03:31 PM

Scott swoops in and drops the PS knowledge smackdown


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