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pusha 01-07-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 676437)
lol
so much fail

It gets worse with each edit.

HBC 01-07-2011 07:59 AM

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Doppelgänger 01-07-2011 09:39 AM

Ok...just stop.

rleete 01-07-2011 12:23 PM

That last one looks like a Mitsubishi.

jj_warhorse 01-07-2011 12:39 PM

I promise you the NC top will not scream "z4".
The best way to do this is by _not_ starting with the very distinct roofline of another car from a different brand.
If you want to copy something, try maybe a FD or rx8, but remember the rear window will be fairly flat.... so that sort of goes out the window too.
We are not copying pre existing designs with these tops. Look at the lines and go from there. Bezier curves and vector graphics will not give good shading or reflections showing contour, but its a good way to create new complimentary lines instead of forcing some other cars lines to fit. Set up your lines and then go for shading using standard layers over the vector shapes.

ZX-Tex 01-07-2011 08:53 PM

http://www.theweeklydriver.com/files/2009/12/Pacer.jpg

Far out man

chicksdigmiatas 01-07-2011 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 676697)

Is this what you're parting the nb for?

Faeflora 01-07-2011 10:11 PM

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Why not something like this?

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levnubhin 01-07-2011 10:15 PM

:barf:
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HBC 01-07-2011 11:18 PM

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anyone have some picks of this, would like to try to put a coupe top on it ?
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phatspud 01-07-2011 11:29 PM

It looks like this. Please, no more.

http://image.europeancarweb.com/f/11...+rear_view.jpg

jj_warhorse 01-07-2011 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 676709)
Why not something like this?

https://i.imgur.com/4jxmP.jpg

I've actually thought about some sort of shooting brake, maybe more like a volvo c30. It would be a real challenge to blend the top into the fender without it looking damn weird. If we could make it look really good, would there be much of a market? It hasen't been ruled out....but one thing at a time. I'm not sure how much sense it makes with the bulkhead there, but I guess it would still provide additional legitimate space. Something to think about...

Faeflora 01-07-2011 11:48 PM

Why not something like this?

http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...-pic-7976.jpeg


anyone have some picks of this, would like to try to put a convertible top on it ?

turotufas 01-07-2011 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by HBC (Post 676443)

Lets do it.

jj_warhorse 01-07-2011 11:53 PM

Yeah, right after we do a miatachero.

y8s 01-07-2011 11:54 PM

oh hell yeah, that's one thing I never have enough of: space to put my 4x8 sheet stock

Faeflora 01-08-2011 12:04 AM

I think we need a design that looks more american. We are all americans here and the miata is a patriotic car! USA! USA! USA!

http://www.lastsummer.com/wagon/pic/m81lebb_x.jpg

jj_warhorse 01-08-2011 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 676747)
oh hell yeah, that's one thing I never have enough of: space to put my 4x8 sheet stock

Just remove the bulkhead and tank to make room for the hydraulics and you could even have a tilting bed!

RattleTrap 01-08-2011 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by jj_warhorse (Post 676529)
The best way to do this is by _not_ starting with the very distinct roofline of another car from a different brand.
We are not copying pre existing designs...

The whole inspiration for the Miata is a copy of an existing design. :laugh:
Lotus never made a 'fasttop' to my knowledge. So, I would think one would be free to do whatever they wanted in this area. I do understand your point, but let's not think Mazda invented this design...



Originally Posted by phatspud (Post 676734)
It looks like this. Please, no more.

At least it's British inspired.
HBC's first post reminds me of a DB4.

jj_warhorse 01-08-2011 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by RattleTrap (Post 676757)
The whole inspiration for the Miata is a copy of an existing design. :laugh:
Lotus never made a 'fasttop' to my knowledge. So, I would think one would be free to do whatever they wanted in this area. I do understand your point, but let's not think Mazda invented this design...

I'm not sure what your point is. When did I ever say mazda invented the small 2 seat roadster concept? The NA is a copy of the original elan. You say it like the elan was the first small 2 seat roadster.
What lotus design does the NB emulate?
None of them, as lotus never made a more flowing and flared version of the elan.
Mazda took more liberties with their interpretation with the NB using the same more curvy and swoopy approach they used with the FD.
Do body kits designed for the NA work with the NB, or vice versa? If they were adapted to work, wouldnt they look awkward 9 times out of 10?


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