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danscreations 04-16-2008 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 243389)
Ide be happy to test fit them on my 90 with 6k rear springs at a 12.0 hub to fender gap. On my flex's i have the shock body shortened as much as possible with the spring "preload" setting its ride height. Im about 2.0 of droop travel, right there on the boarder of being on the bumps all day, yet i only feel them on the freeway on hard bumps.

Your on the list when I flip the OK switch. I might just have you be the first so we can see how they're going to work on the flex.

So confused talked to several Flex owners. A few said they had NO negative preload; so they obviously got the ride height they wanted by adjusting the bottom collar. Then I've heard guys at about 12.5" ride height with the bottom adjustment maxed out which would make you have to adjust the spring collars down 1" for 11.5" ride height (equals 1" of negative preload), 1.5" for 11" ride height (equals 1.5" of negative preload).

You happen to know how low you can go by just adjusting the bottom collar all they way up (maxing it out for as short as it can be)?

johndoe 04-16-2008 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=danscreations;243546]
Then I've heard guys at about 12.5" ride height with the bottom adjustment maxed out which would make you have to adjust the spring collars down 1" for 11.5" ride height (equals 1" of negative preload), 1.5" for 11" ride height (equals 1.5" of negative preload).
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they must be doing something wrong, though the rears are more limited than the front as to how far they can be lowered. Also you can go with shorter springs to keep from having negative preload with lower heights. That way you can screw the shock further down without the lock collar and spring collars interfering.

danscreations 04-16-2008 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=johndoe;243554]

Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 243546)
Then I've heard guys at about 12.5" ride height with the bottom adjustment maxed out which would make you have to adjust the spring collars down 1" for 11.5" ride height (equals 1" of negative preload), 1.5" for 11" ride height (equals 1.5" of negative preload).
QUOTE]

they must be doing something wrong, though the rears are more limited than the front as to how far they can be lowered. Also you can go with shorter springs to keep from having negative preload with lower heights. That way you can screw the shock further down without the lock collar and spring collars interfering.

Makes sense same thing the tophats will do just with the springs instead of extending the mounting point.

No one got horribly specific when saying they were out of adjustment on the bottom. Figured they bottomed the shock body on the inside of the bottom mount instead of interferance of the two adjustment points (bottom and spring collars).

danscreations 04-17-2008 12:02 AM

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speedf50 05-06-2008 01:36 AM

So are you making these?

Speaking as a cheap ass (sorry but there are quite a few of us here) would this provide any more travel than the ISC topmounts? Or is it just less ghetto, holds the spring, and uses a spherical bearing instead of the NB shock bushings(I think the ISC uses those)?

I still think these are amazingly cool and if I had the money right now I would love to get them.

Another question... how much travel do you think these would have over NB mounts on teins? My current setup is SS with NB stockers, but it looks as if these would give even more travel, and even more on top of that with the use of the 22mm bumpstop.

thesnowboarder 05-06-2008 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by danscreations (Post 243546)
Your on the list when I flip the OK switch. I might just have you be the first so we can see how they're going to work on the flex.

So confused talked to several Flex owners. A few said they had NO negative preload; so they obviously got the ride height they wanted by adjusting the bottom collar. Then I've heard guys at about 12.5" ride height with the bottom adjustment maxed out which would make you have to adjust the spring collars down 1" for 11.5" ride height (equals 1" of negative preload), 1.5" for 11" ride height (equals 1.5" of negative preload).

You happen to know how low you can go by just adjusting the bottom collar all they way up (maxing it out for as short as it can be)?

In order to get the flex anywhere near 12.75 in the rear the spring collar (preload) must be lowered. I have my bottom collar all the way up (meaning as low as possible) and the ride height set to 12.0 in the rear. Droop travel is at 2 inch's. Any droop travel above 1.5 and your on the bump stops. Which i am. If these did the trick and kept me off at my desired height while keeping my droop travel to a minimum i wouldn't hesitate to buy them.

y8s 05-06-2008 10:02 AM

still dont think the flex need these. there's enough adjustment range in the body adjustment to send the wheels into the fenders at the same time as you fully compress the bumpstops.

dc2696 05-06-2008 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 230744)
For the price, I wouldn't produce these. Besides already having similar products on the market,


Ya like the $35 ones I'm rockin now, best buy ever (ISC):cool:

speedf50 05-06-2008 07:04 PM

So do your ISC mounts give more travel than the stock NB mounts would?

slutz4 05-06-2008 07:23 PM

the isc mounts work, there just a bit crude if youd ask me.

ashC 05-07-2008 12:33 PM

Can someone else provide me with some info on these ISC mounts?

cjernigan 05-07-2008 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by ashC (Post 253231)
Can someone else provide me with some info on these ISC mounts?

You can find them here: http://www.iscracing.net/Miata_suspension.htm

danscreations 09-24-2008 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by mmmjesse (Post 311588)
Looking forward to getting a pair out of the next batch.

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