Oh My God I Just Bought A Tranny W/o Synchro
 

Oh my god, i just spent $300 including shipping for a JDM tranny with 40k on it, only to find out it doesnt have synchro..... I am not familiar with this... can i install synchro? its going to cost $100 to ship it back so this would cost me $400 and i would get $195 back. AHHHHH!! :bang::bang:HELP ME:bang::bang:

Why in the name of god did you buy a "JDM" transmission (unless of course you are talking about a Japanese He-She)?

Anyway, what do you mean it doesn't have syncros?

cheap! thats why i bought it, ebay. it is a japanesse tranny

i was pushing it through the gears the other day(not in the car) and it seemed really rough. i figured it was just because it hadnt been in a car in a while... thought nothing of it.. so i was just looking at the description of the auction and i realized it said nothing about synchro-mesh so i was like oh sh*t i have to ask... and the guy just wrote back saying no it doesnt and synchro is in the rear end... is it?

Did they even make a synchro-less miata transmission? I don't think so. There would be no point to that unless it was a dog-box.

stupid question. you do have transmission oil in it, right? Sometimes used tranny's come without being filled with oil to save on shipping weight. :eek:

the guy stated in the email he just sent me tht it has no synchro.. i know that all miatas from the US have them, but i wasnt sure about japanesse. im pretty sure it has oil in it, he said to change the oil before installing it. its not in the car yet

You have no idea what you are talking about. And it sounds like the seller is clueless also, unless he is just responding to how little you know

Do you have oil in the trans? Have you tried it in the car? (i know it isn't in... but trying it within its proper format of on the car and fresh fluid.... might help)

Syncros (plural) help mesh the gears during shifts. The transmission has them.
You talk about syncro-mesh, that is a type of trasmission fluid.

The rear end has NO syncros. NONE. It is a differential and does not do any SHIFTING.

i know the rear end has nothing to do with it. he is dumb.
im talking about synchros, he said it didnt have them, i wasnt sure because its imported from japan.
i believe there is oil in it. it is still wrapped up, only the shifter is protruding.
it has not been in the car. i got it last week, was waiting for my clutch. and no there is not any fresh fluid in it.

Sounds like you are the stupid one.

The trans is toast.

Edit: Or it could be simply fine, You haven't even tossed it in the car yet. 30k on it, hahaha. It could simply need new fluid. Syncromesh isn't needed unless your trans is grinding. There are syncro's in the transmission for sure.

Next time

1. spend about $75 more and get a trans from a good source.
2. don't buy anything listed as "JDM"

i might send it back... PS i said 40k not 30k, and i have 54k on my tranny and it wont go into R and it doesnt like 3rd

Don't assume. Drain & fill after installation.

Keep in mind the shifter housing is a separate reservior of oil.

Im thinking you might want to ask this at the "other web site" This is more typical of what people post over there

you're a fucking moron.

You're shifting it through the gears while it's on the floor, and you expect it to shift right into the gears smoothly? :bang: Synchros won't do a damn thing for you unless the shafts are spinning. Put the thing in the car, put new fluid in it. Drive it on.

JDM, yO:giggle:

Are you fucking kidding me. The thing is sitting on the floor of your garage and you're complaining cause it won't go into gear? Are you high? Seriously, that's something a stoner would ask about.

And if your current tranny has lost Reverse and 3rd in just 54k, then it looks like it's time for an automatic. The tranny's are one of the more robust parts of the car and routinely go 300k+ miles with no problems.

another dumb post from 1fastmiata
just ban him, please

looks like you need some saving kid, listen closely and never forget this...

anything JDM means you are a flaming homo who likes it up the ass.
there is no difference between japanese and american engines and transmissions and rear ends...dont ever buy anything that says JDM anywhere in the add
sounds like the sellers is an absolute idiot, so dont listen to anything he says and just hope that you didnt buy a blown tranny
now, install tranny in your car and put fresh fluid in it, i think it takes just shy of two full quarts, but i dont remember to be exact...also take this opportunity to change the fluid in your "shifter" and in your rear end
again, JDM=your taking it in the ass
smarten up kid, you have lots of knowledgable members here to guide you, dont take that for granted and use your resources, ignorance is not a bad thing, stupidity is!
good luck, you need it

Hey Fastmiata, didn't you say your father or uncle was a mechanic? Do you bother to run these questions past them before asking us?

C

beaten to the obvious

+1 I abuse the shit out of my tranny and it's running fine at nearly 150K miles. learn to drive a stick or buy a fucking camry.

pretty sure the fluid will run right out of the tranny's tailshaft and turret hole if it's not installed.

yup, i learned that after taking a bath while changing the clutch :bang:

It will also run out of the speedo gear hole if the gear isn't installed. I know from experience.:)

heh, transmission bukkake. :rofl:

Yeah, like I said earlier, they probably drain it before shipping to avoid the mess and extra weight.

sick in the head dude... :bowrofl:

my car has been raced all its life. Still has 1-5th gears at 130xxx

u guys gotta give him some slack..... if i'm correct.... aren't the JDM Na6 and Na8's more powerful than our B series motors by a little? that's probably what gave him the idea to get the "JDM" transmission....

kid doesn't know much, he's trying to learn, and i'm sure since he just got ripped off via ebay..... he's learned his lesson enough to not earn a bashinh from us mt.net people

i have 300k+ miles on my trans and all 5 gears plus reverse work fine with over 300hp to the crank.

My transmission has 700,000 miles on it and actually grew a 7th gear! And it plays Lynyrd Skynrd when i put it into reverse!

I power shift mine, shift without the clutch, throw it in reverse while driving at highway speeds, take off in fifth, drive it with no tranny fluid, grind gears all day and i got all 5 gears and reverse. Yeah Daddy

wtf is that ^^^

my thoughts on this thread :bury face in hand:

worst thread ever

Is it matched to a JDM engine?

You need both for them to work properly.

damn, this is the retarted post that i've read on here in a while. He should have posted this on M.net They would have def answered all his questions...

needs JDM trans fluid too. the american stuff wont work

listen, if you want to trash on me READ THE EFFING THREAD CORRECTLY!!! i NEVER said it didnt go into gear. i said it felt a little rough. first of all i have had this care for about 5k miles, MY FATHER AND I PURCHASED IT FROM MY UNCLE AND THERE HAS BEEN 3 DRIVERS EACH TRACK EVENT... NOT MY DRIVING!!!! AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND YOU WILL FIND THAT RACECAR MIATAS GO THROUGH 1.6L TRANSMISSIONS EVERY 50K MILES (THATS OFF OF A SPEC SITE PS ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CHECK UP ON IT). i will eff anyone up in a straight line drag in the same car, dont talk about shifting, go ahead and take an automagic and line up next to me, see who gets down the track first.:fawk:

thanks for sticking up for me, I wish there were more people like you and paul in here.
I found out how dumb he was today... he sent an email saying that he knows absolutely nothing about cars and told me the tranny couldnt be used in a racecar and to send it back for a full refund, hahah.

sorry, you must have me confused. i may have said my uncle is a mechanical engineer..? and my father runs a machine shop and i know my way around cars pretty well(mostly old ones tho)

I'm going to calmly explain to you the problem with your reasoning, because i don't like to be confrontational and think it's better to teach and reason than it is to belittle and insult.







The problem is that you are a complete dumbass.

YAY!!! Another nice guy!!!!:) someone thought of it!!! JDM engines put out a couple more HP!

you might have been sarcastic but just in case... are you sure? bolt pattern looks to be the same.. i dont have my tranny out of the car yet so im not positive

ill do the same for you....




:fawk::jerkit:

Remember the Tostitos commercials from a few years back?

"Really?"
"No....NOT really."

be careful with that second emoticon. This is a miata site. I might ask for a reacharound too, sweetcheeks. :bang:

Ahhhh.........I'm going to so miss our little discussions when you're gone. :hs:

LOL, and again, ban!

Yeah of course so they dont put synchros in the transmission. :bowrofl:

ps, its japan, you have to consider the source... they are all dumbasses over there. plus they have to get rid of there engines after 5 years or 50k miles

All joking aside, 1fastmiata, go research what a synchro actually DOES in a transmission and you will understand why we are giving you a hard time about this. as for it being hard to shift, understand that trans has probably been sitting in a warehouse for who knows how long (18 years? lol.) DRY, so it probably has rust flashed on all the internal parts. Get it filled with the correct type and amount of oil then mount the thing in the car and RUN it.

If you send it back to him, based on your description, YOU will be the idiot. You will be out a transmission and you money because it sounds like he is playing you for the fool you seem deadset on BEING.

and ps, i like straight answers im so sick of sarcasm.. it makes me terribly mad

and im not sending it back. i know what synchros do, they just make it so the car shifts smoother and easier.. also so you dont HAVE to double clutch

You got fucked over because you are ignorant. Straight and to the point. You continue to show your lack of maturity and ignorance, stop it please.

i was wondering when you would come in. you always have worthless input to add

come back*

Oh Jesus. I missed this little gem.

Who told you that?! Call him up and tell him you're going over. When he answers the door, PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE.

The Japanese are not REQUIRED to change out their engines every 5 years.

you sure about that? because it has something to do with emissions or smog or something, not really sure... i was told this back when i had my probe and was about to purchase a jspec engine with 40k on it and the gentleman that i was trying to purchase from explained this to me

Who was the engine importer? I had a guy at Noyan motorsports tell me the same thing when i went to order a KLZE for my old mx6 (small world, isn't it? ;) ). Sorry, but it just isn't true. The problem is that cars become more expensive to operate given time, plus those who own cars in Japan typically want the latest and greatest. Call it a national pride issue. :) Repair costs are high there. So people just buy a car for a bit and sell it when it gets some age on it. And of course, that's not everyone, but that's the trend.

I thought you could not get any fucking more idiotic.