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Mentalbiker12 06-11-2018 04:55 PM

The original KLiata will live on
 
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...527b26ced.jpegThe klze that’s getting rebuilt from my mx6
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c91d5bb42.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d10318cee.jpegThe old KLiata is torn down and ready for its new home
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a169ddb5f.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ee995b19d.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6dcd33c24.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...68735f30d.jpeg
Hey guys. Figured I’d post some of this stuff on here to share with all of you. I’m sure a lot of you know about mark snell KLiata back in the day. Well the new owner is parting it out to do a k swap after it’s been sitting for a while and I got lucky enough to pick it all up. Coming from the mx6 KL platform over the last 10 years I’m hoping my experience will get me making 225whp with he stock manifold and bottom end. The klze is currently being rebuilt. Just gotta get the block ultrasonically cleaned. End goals with this are to build the block. Modify another set of built and ported heads. Custom manifold. Either single 6266 or twin 5558 turbos. And up near 700whp. Where I’ll end up is anyone’s guess.

concealer404 06-11-2018 04:57 PM

Looks neat!

Can i interest you in an ECU/Harness/Ignition package for that setup? :P

matrussell122 06-11-2018 05:07 PM

Good to see you getting active in the forum again. We have talked a few times at your work about my motor build. Look forward to seeing your build progress.

Mentalbiker12 06-11-2018 05:13 PM

I’m picking up an ms3x again and building a full custom harness for the way I’m setting this up. I already have a megasquirt in it I need to sell.

And i I do not work at Tork Motorsports anymore. I left to go back to college and am doing my own stuff on the side now

concealer404 06-11-2018 05:14 PM

Worth a shot haha. I have this Haltech/IGN1A/LMS-EFI motorsports harness sitting here for a KL and it feels bad.

Mentalbiker12 06-11-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1486189)
Worth a shot haha. I have this Haltech/IGN1A/LMS-EFI motorsports harness sitting here for a KL and it feels bad.

ya I have ls2 coils and plug wires sitting in my box. Not to mention I like building my own harnesses. This is one I did on my buddies mx6
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d95a27327.jpeg

glade 06-11-2018 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1486189)
Worth a shot haha. I have this Haltech/IGN1A/LMS-EFI motorsports harness sitting here for a KL and it feels bad.

​​​​​​​Do tell me more

TurboTim 06-12-2018 10:35 AM

Hmmm I need a new coil solution.

Sub'ed for updates. KL's are the bestest.

thumpetto007 06-12-2018 11:21 AM

Are these fwd? The only KL swaps Ive seen before are longitudinally mounted, with an adapter plate to the miata bellhousing.

concealer404 06-12-2018 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1486276)
Are these fwd? The only KL swaps Ive seen before are longitudinally mounted, with an adapter plate to the miata bellhousing.

Miatas are RWD.

Mentalbiker12 06-12-2018 12:12 PM

The cars that the kL comes from are all fwd. mx6. 626. Ford probe. Etc. I’ve had 2 kL powered cars and have 2 klze sitting here so I figured I may as well stick with my favorite motor. Even if it doesn’t make as much power as others. Goal with the car is to make single digits in the 1/4 while still being road raceable. No autocross for me

Mentalbiker12 06-12-2018 12:49 PM

Yes. If you look up “mark snell KLiata” or just “kliata” on YouTube you will find a couple. It’s the light blue one

TurboTim 06-12-2018 12:57 PM


Mentalbiker12 06-12-2018 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1486291)

thats the one

Mentalbiker12 06-12-2018 06:24 PM

My buddy is giving me his m62 supercharger he bought for his old car so I will be working to try and fit that into the car as well

ridethecliche 06-13-2018 12:26 AM

The plot thickens!

TurboTim 06-13-2018 07:58 AM

There is/was someone on miata.net putting an M62 on their KL miata. Seems a nice idea to me.

Mentalbiker12 02-13-2019 04:26 AM

Alright guys. Been awhile since any updates and so far still not much. I officially have the entire swap kit in my garage. I got the shortblock rebuilt and ready to go. But I sold my daily and bought a new daily which still is yet to be driveable so miata has been on daily duty. I also left the performance shop to go back to school so money has been tight for the time being.

But enough of the not so good. Let’s go over the updates

first. Here is the motor currently
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7db4fd763.jpeg
a miata buddy who I tuned is upgrading to a massive turbo and is giving me his gt2860rs. So that means the turbo choice is settled. Twin 2860s. I will be ordering my welder next month so I will be able to start fabricating some parts for people to help speed things up for me. I have a new cluster blank on the way for the new gauge cluster I’ll be building

as soon as me and the wife get her built speed3 back up and running after some unfortunate events. I can finally get started fixing the daily the rest of the way. As soon as that is done. The bp is coming out. I will get the rest of the shortblock components on the car and get the short block mounted in the car!

stick around for updates coming soon. Sorry to keep everyone waiting. Life priorities took over

im planning to make some YouTube videos of the build process so keep an eye out for those on my channel “Mystique Motorsports” I’ll have some updates of my wife’s car in there as well

sixshooter 02-13-2019 09:03 AM

I'm thinking it's going to be a little difficult to spool twin 2860s with the available displacement.

concealer404 02-13-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1522647)
I'm thinking it's going to be a little difficult to spool twin 2860s with the available displacement.

I'd bet a 3 cylinder 1.25 litre half a KL would flow about as much air as a BP. Maybe more.

The design of this motor is not to be confused with the garbage we normally work with.

Mentalbiker12 02-13-2019 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1522647)
I'm thinking it's going to be a little difficult to spool twin 2860s with the available displacement.

i compared a Audi s4 2.7l with twin 2860s and it hits full boost at about 4-4500rpm. And being able to rev to 9k rpm I’ll have plenty of power band

TurboTim 02-13-2019 01:53 PM

I have boost from maybe 3500 up, but when I usually drive the car the rpms are below that. So it feels lazy just cruising around.

Just depends on what you're going for.

I haven't had the balls to rev mine high. My limit's set to 8000 (cause I'm scared of the mustang clutch) and I've never hit it.

sixshooter 02-13-2019 03:10 PM

Reasonable rev limits are good for people with feet.

Mentalbiker12 02-13-2019 03:54 PM

Car is being built for 1/4 mile and road racing in mind so some lazier spool time is fine by me. It will spend most of its life above 4000rpm. Also have plans to add a small nitrous shot help spool the turbos on the track. But unsure on that still. Still gotta figure out the rx7 t2 trans adapting. My adaptor plate mates an rx7 bellhousing that bolts to the Miata 5 speed. So I’m hoping it will bolt right in. I have another block sitting here to get sleeved/forged etc.

im so anxious to get this started finally it’s been years since I’ve done anything to the car.

Mentalbiker12 02-13-2019 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1522727)
I have boost from maybe 3500 up, but when I usually drive the car the rpms are below that. So it feels lazy just cruising around.

Just depends on what you're going for.

I haven't had the balls to rev mine high. My limit's set to 8000 (cause I'm scared of the mustang clutch) and I've never hit it.

if you have klde valve springs 8k is basically the maximum you want to see. If you have updated springs like I do this. 9k is fine. But not beneficial without heavy port work and cams. I have the tri flow colt turbo cams In mine as well. If there is no power over 8k I’ll drop the limiter down

TurboTim 02-13-2019 04:44 PM

I have whatever spring interprep sells with stock cams.

Mentalbiker12 02-13-2019 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1522754)
I have whatever spring interprep sells with stock cams.

there springs are updated springs. I have theirs as well. You will probably run out of breath around 6000-6500 with the stock cams. They dont have enough lift on the kl01 cams to breathe that high


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