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SloS13 04-11-2008 05:48 PM

Poor man's exhaust cut-out
 
I've been wanting to do this for years and never in my imagination did I dream it could be executed so beautifully. It almost looks like the car was supposed to come that way.

Super sleeper hidden secret lever behindish the seat
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4776/lever1yw7.jpg

Cleaned up for that OEM look.
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8070/lever2wb1.jpg

Up in the air
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7118/sidexs7.jpg

Here's the rest of my exhaust BTW.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3079/cutout4pw9.jpg

Feast your eyes upon the glory.
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/436/cutout3hq8.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9243/cutout2jp4.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8607/cutout1lc6.jpg

you cant see if unless you're under the car...I think and it actually works perfect. Im still gonna clean up the welds and stuff and attach the throttle body on there a bit better but otherwise it's done.

The muffler is super restrictive b/c I wanted it to sound close to stock. This'll help a lot.

Other pics:
I SO need to clean the garage. It's a sad sight
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6008/garagenu5.jpg

ugh, tire time
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2592/tiresii2.jpg

I need to refinish my wheels. I usually dont care so much about nice looking wheels but the powdercoating is pitted all to hell making them get dirty real fast and a serious pain to clean. So far I've done one wheel

Before
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5...lbeforexm0.jpg

After
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6...elafterrg8.jpg

And heres the lexus. It's dirty. I'll get around to it. So far I've claybarred about 12sqft.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4782/img1354jo8.jpg

budget racer 04-11-2008 06:17 PM

are you able to reach that while driving? it looks like you would have to get out of the car to get to it...........GHETTO-TASTIC!

patsmx5 04-11-2008 06:17 PM

Me likes, that's awesome. We need video's!

Joe Perez 04-11-2008 06:25 PM

A thottle body? That is priceless! SloS13 wins the Ghetto Fabulous award. :bigtu:

If that thing is open for any length of time, you might consider trying to fabricate some kind of downpipe for it. One of the guys in LA melted his bumper cover a few years ago doing something similar.

Braineack 04-11-2008 06:28 PM

your hood is broken.

patsmx5 04-11-2008 06:37 PM

What size Throttle body? What did it come off of? I keep thinking about doing something similar, but have it hooked to the gas pedal so it only open above 3/4 throttle or something. Same here, going for 100% sleeper OEM look, and sound.

Mach929 04-11-2008 06:39 PM

wow that's resourcefulness. i would guess ideally you'd want to put it further up in the exhaust stream

Braineack 04-11-2008 06:41 PM

weld a spare wastegate on it and run a boost source into it instead of the cable.

patsmx5 04-11-2008 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 241789)
weld a spare wastegate on it and run a boost source into it instead of the cable.

Si. Then I could add MBC to adjust it.:) Might do that. Do they make wastegates that open at like 2PSI or something? Don't answer that, I'll look it up.

Braineack 04-11-2008 07:12 PM

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/releases/release091004.htm

coastertrav 04-11-2008 08:05 PM

thats awesome!

SloS13 04-11-2008 08:29 PM

went for a ride just now and it works absolutely perfect. no leaks and it sounds great open. It's still going through the resonator so it's not crazy loud. Actually sounds really good. I'll try and get a vid soon. Oh yeah and I can reach it without a problem. It's just slightly awkward.

I considered putting a wastegate actuator on there but I decided I'd rather just have a manual one.

It's some kind of Honda Civic throttle body. Either a D or B series. I removed the lip and it fit perfect in a 2.5" (with expanded end). Fit perfect.

patsmx5 04-11-2008 08:46 PM

Cool. Turn up the amps on your welder, looks way too cold. I so wanna do this.

SloS13 04-11-2008 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 241827)
Cool. Turn up the amps on your welder, looks way too cold. I so wanna do this.

Well I had to use my shitty ass flux core. Low was too low and hot was too hot but I'd rather have bird shit welds than holes everywhere :cool:

I've been too lazy to get my gas filled for the MIG.

patsmx5 04-11-2008 09:38 PM

Meh, I've done plenty of flux core welding. It works. Just gotta get the heat right. I'm no great welder but when the power's too low, you have to use more gap to get the heat to concentrate.

So what's the specs on your exhaust? I'm assuming 2.5". What muffler? You gotta go make some videos.

SloS13 04-11-2008 11:40 PM

all homemade 2.5. Summit resonator and summit "turbo" muffler. Sounds real quiet. Only thing I can take videos with is my digicam :(

chriscar 04-11-2008 11:57 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here's something similar on a turbo SE-R.
http://www.sr20forum.com/turbo/18425...-out-done.html

Attachment 213517
Attachment 213518


ATP had a neato exhaust cut out that worked off boost pressure to open it up and close it at no boost. Of course I wasn't willing to pay around $300 for this - and they are out of stock with no in-stock date known, I made my own.

You need two things to make this work - first you will need some kind of precision made butterfly device in a housing. A throttle body off a 4.6 Ford Crown Vic was big enough (2 3/4) opening and cheap - $9.99.
Second you need a turbo wastegate actuator. Brand new Dodge SRT take-off for $40 will work just fine.

So, concept is simple - it will open up based on the wastegate you choose to use (SRT is 4 psi) and of course is closed with the same tension when driving normally. Add in a bit of creative fab/cut/weld and you my friend have a effective cutout which requires no electrical wiring, no cables and no reaching under the car to open and close. Yes, you will have to route boosted air there, but 1/4 soft copper line is cheap, easy to bend and very durable.

Does it work? Damn skippy it works - and works freaking awesome! I hesitated to post this, as it has only been on the car for a couple days and I cannot prove its long term reliability.

Just thought I would give those looking for a very stealth exhaust for normal driving and a wide-open in-your-face screaming no back pressure LOW DOUGH option.

bryantaylor 04-12-2008 09:46 PM

awesome, sign up on homemadeturbo.com and post that now!!!!!

SloS13 04-13-2008 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by bryantaylor (Post 242143)
awesome, sign up on homemadeturbo.com and post that now!!!!!

I've been on hmt since forever. I posted it in the fab section. ;)

p00t 04-13-2008 11:56 AM

unfortunately ATP hasnt had those VES valves in stock for at least 2 years... why they still advertise them on their site is beyond me.

another solution is a QTP electric cutout. if you get the controller with it you can trigger it open manually or with a button/switch. So you could have it trigger only when your WOT, etc.

http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/index.php

boostinboy 04-14-2008 11:14 PM

wow i had this idea a year or two ago but never put it to the test thought that people would think i was crazy, also didnt have a car to test it on. i explained to my friend that we shoud have do it to his Supra but he wouldnt he punched me in the gut, and said YOU STUPID RICER!! So i said what ever!

Flawxy 04-15-2008 01:57 AM

that could very well be the most creative thing i have ever seen. Does it seal closed well?

mazda/nissan 04-15-2008 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Flawxy (Post 242946)
that could very well be the most creative thing i have ever seen. Does it seal closed well?

looking nice slos13 :bigtu: but don't throttle bodies not seel completely to let air in at idle or is that controlled with a stop in the throttle cable?

chriscar 04-15-2008 08:21 AM

They seal at idle, IAC's or similar take care of idle air.

C

SloS13 04-15-2008 08:26 AM

It seals excellent. I plugged the IACV feed holes (dunno what else to call 'em) with JBWeld and let it cure overnight before I installed it.

2kBlk 04-15-2008 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 242993)
It seals excellent. I plugged the IACV feed holes (dunno what else to call 'em) with JBWeld and let it cure overnight before I installed it.

From the far away chair looking at the internet, skeptics can easily see that it won't seal correctly.

You did it. You say it seals, I believe you above all others. Right on!:skid:

mazda/nissan 04-15-2008 09:13 AM

slos13 did you weld that with your harbor freight or with that monster of a welder you have sitting there that i think you said you borrowed from someone?

SloS13 04-15-2008 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 243012)
slos13 did you weld that with your harbor freight or with that monster of a welder you have sitting there that i think you said you borrowed from someone?

Yeah borrowing it indefinitely from my older brother, until he wants it back anyways. I had to break out the ole flux-core for this one. Big one is out of gas and I'm extremely lazy. :fawk:



Originally Posted by 2kBlk (Post 242997)
From the far away chair looking at the internet, skeptics can easily see that it won't seal correctly.

You did it. You say it seals, I believe you above all others. Right on!:skid:

Thanks!. When I get some vid of it, I'll try to show how good it's sealed by putting a piece of paper around it or something when the car is running.

I tried taking a few vids of it this past weekend but I only have a digicam and the vids suck pretty bad.

bryantaylor 04-15-2008 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by SloS13 (Post 242269)
I've been on hmt since forever. I posted it in the fab section. ;)

i saw it, lol

Toddcod 01-03-2009 05:14 PM

What about the fuel air ratio's. Does this not change things drastically when you drive it open?

Or is it ok?

My ratio's changed when I finnally got my exhaust hooked up right. (instead of dangling under the car to the muffler shop) But mine was loose at the dp instead of after a resonator.

That is sweet!!!!!!

mrtonyg 01-03-2009 05:42 PM

You do realize this thread is 8 months old right?

Fergus 01-03-2009 07:23 PM

I have this at the end of my downpipe....
YouTube - Mazda Miata Turbo with Exhaust ByPass Valve

I've modded it since then to give more clearance. Nice and neat with a little switch for open/close.


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