Notices
General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

The problem with 1 key..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:38 PM
  #1  
timemachine89's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 14
Total Cats: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default The problem with 1 key..

So the other day I was wiping my car down with a micro fiber cloth which I keep in the trunk and I close the trunk with the key still inside. Unfortunately, both doors and locked and I don't feel like tearing a hole in the soft top just to get to the trunk lever. I've read that you could possibly drill a hole in the rear license plate to get to a latch but am unsure if this will work 100% with my NA8 since those instructions were for an NA6.

Either way, I'm about to find out really soon or get my car towed from the local 7-11....
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:44 PM
  #2  
Erat's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,717
Total Cats: 830
From: Detroit (the part with no rules or laws)
Default

Find a coat hanger or something to get to the lock . Miata is literally the easiest vehicle to break into.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:02 PM
  #3  
krissetsfire's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 883
Total Cats: 56
From: Tucson, Arizona
Default

If you have triple a or someone around you does and is willing to waste one of their uses on you. Have them call a locksmith out for a lost key. If thats not an option and you're too cheap/thrifty you can pull the passenger side door panel and disconnect the clip from the lock. On the lock housing is a key code. Take that to a locksmith or the dealer and they'll cut you a key for like 15 or 20.

You don't have to have triple A either any kind of towing/lockout coverage should help. Comes with insurance if you aren't too cheap to decline it.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:19 PM
  #4  
timemachine89's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 14
Total Cats: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

I ended up using a piece of wire to get the passenger door open only to find out that the trunk latch doesn't work... just my luck. I decided to call AAA and have the car towed home so I can figure this out later...
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:21 PM
  #5  
Chiburbian's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,331
Total Cats: 204
From: Loganville, GA
Default

Locksmith here:

Your window can be pulled away from the top pretty far before it's any issue. Slip a non-marring wedge between the top of the window and the convertible top frame.you should be able to get it at least 3/8" apart. I use an air wedge.

Watch this for inspiration:

From there you can slip a rod of some sort into the gap. I use special rods made for this but you can problably be creative and figure it out.

Some police departments will do vehicle lock-outs.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:26 PM
  #6  
Chiburbian's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,331
Total Cats: 204
From: Loganville, GA
Default

LOL - you posted that while I was making my reply. You should be able to get into the trunk by taking the carpet off the package panel and removing some bolts. I forget the exact routing but I was able to get SOME access to my trunk that way.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 06:26 PM
  #7  
timemachine89's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 14
Total Cats: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Chiburbian
Locksmith here:

Your window can be pulled away from the top pretty far before it's any issue. Slip a non-marring wedge between the top of the window and the convertible top frame.you should be able to get it at least 3/8" apart. I use an air wedge.

From there you can slip a rod of some sort into the gap. I use special rods made for this but you can problably be creative and figure it out.

Some police departments will do vehicle lock-outs.
That's kinda what I was hoping on, stuck my iPhone in there and used it as a wedge. Good to know that cops do vehicle lock-outs but I highly doubt they will both around where I live... They already have a hard time responding to a live robbery..
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:40 PM
  #8  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

+1 to pulling off the rear parcel cover. You can reach in and grab stuff from the trunk.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:32 PM
  #9  
codrus's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,285
Total Cats: 883
From: Santa Clara, CA
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
+1 to pulling off the rear parcel cover. You can reach in and grab stuff from the trunk.
That depends on what roll bar you have installed, and how long your arms are.

--Ian
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:34 PM
  #10  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Originally Posted by codrus
That depends on what roll bar you have installed, and how long your arms are.

--Ian
Different cover. The small one in back. Right into the trunk.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:31 AM
  #11  
krissetsfire's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 883
Total Cats: 56
From: Tucson, Arizona
Default

I am also a locksmith and I gave you advice I thought would result n the least amount of possible damage. If you still need to get into your car and have manual windows you can push down on the window. If you get enough momentum it will actually keep going down and you can just reach in. AAA will actually send a locksmith out to make a key or reimburse you up to 100 if you have platinum or 50 if you don't then you pay the rest.

I could make a key in about 15-20 min and would charge about 75-85 normally. Anyway if you can get the key with just taking the panel off do it. On an Na miata I don't think it's necessarily bad but just my opinion I'd never let anyone shove an air wedge in my car. they are for lazy hacks. Sorry chi. I've never used one and never had to. I've been a locksmith for 15 years and my father and grandfather are and were as well. Bending doors definitely isn't harmless.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 01:48 AM
  #12  
krissetsfire's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 883
Total Cats: 56
From: Tucson, Arizona
Default

In fact if you aren't in a hurry and you pm me the key code I'll mail you a key for free
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 10:43 AM
  #13  
Chiburbian's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,331
Total Cats: 204
From: Loganville, GA
Default

Originally Posted by krissetsfire
I've been a locksmith for 15 years and my father and grandfather are and were as well. Bending doors definitely isn't harmless.
Fair enough. Auto's aren't my thing. I am an institutional guy and only do lockouts if the security guys can't get in. In the hundreds of lockouts they/we have done I have never seen a door bent, but then again, I'm not an expert in that.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:44 PM
  #14  
krissetsfire's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 883
Total Cats: 56
From: Tucson, Arizona
Default

A customer commented to me before oh you're not going to use that pump thing in the door? good. Ever since the last guy did it I hear a slight whistle when I'm going fast from the door jam. I'm going to assume that's not the first or last. I mean honestly what do you think prying a big heavy latched metal against its will is going to do? I never liked the thought of it and never adopted it for many reasons.

Obviously when you do something for a living you try and keep best practice and have pride in your work. If someone is DIY and doesn't care just wants to do t themselves that's a different mentality obviously.

Many people use pump wedges and they do their job. Just not something I'd use on my own car so wouldn't on a customers.

You also risk getting your paint chipped and scratched up because they just slide the tool against your paint. nobody notices or complains too much cause it's in a part of the door they don't see too much... anyway you get the point.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 02:52 PM
  #15  
huesmann's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 659
Total Cats: -15
From: Silver Spring, MD
Default

I've had a similar issue--actuator rod between lock and latch came loose.

Your NA8 should have a plug in the bottom of the trunk, a bit like a freeze plug, except bigger. You can use a jack and pop it into the trunk. If you don't have a crapton of heavy **** in your trunk, you can reach up through, and feel around for the latch mechanism. You may need to fiddle around underneath the panel covering the latch. When you're done, you just RTV the plug back into place.

This avoids drilling holes and perhaps promoting rust.
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 07:13 AM
  #16  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,541
Total Cats: 4,364
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

uh dude.


1. you can pop the trunk from the outside if you have drilled your hole out behind the license plate.

2. you can unzip you rear window from outside the car, then pop the trunk.

3. you can easily unlock the car with a stick through a gap in the window, then pop the trunk.


this is probably the easiest car in the world to break into.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mx5.chris
Meet and Greet
19
Jul 25, 2016 10:40 AM
Besusjesus
WTB
0
Jun 28, 2016 02:51 PM
Itty
WTB
1
Jun 23, 2016 07:00 PM
1FastMx5
Miata parts for sale/trade
1
Jun 23, 2016 03:30 PM
fuzionx23
Miata parts for sale/trade
0
Jun 16, 2016 08:02 AM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:12 AM.