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1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 05:32 PM

race gas fuel cell in the trunk
 
im looking to run race gas in another fuel cell mounted in the tank to make more power for when im at the drag track. im going to mount it over the spare tire hole so this way the sump clears and the tank sits level. so let me know what you guys thing of the idea. i priced the parts i need at 350 bucks here are all the parts im looking to buy
Summit SUM-293205 - SummitŪ Aluminum Fuel Cells
Holley 12-920 - Holley In-Line Electric Fuel Pumps
Russell Performance 614018 - Russell AN to NPT Adapter Fittings
Earl's Performance 991003ERL - Earl's Performance Couplers
Professional Products 10232 - Professional Products NPT to Hose Adapter Fittings

Mouglie 05-10-2009 06:09 PM

will you have a valve to switch from one gas tank to another or are you getting rid of the stock tank?

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Mouglie (Post 406977)
will you have a valve to switch from one gas tank to another or are you getting rid of the stock tank?

im going to have a check valve in each line so the fuel can only flow to the rail and not into the other tank

thesnowboarder 05-10-2009 06:26 PM

why not just run your tank dry on the way to the track and fill it up with your "race fuel" when you get there?

This is what all/most boosted track miatas do, in fact this is what most track cars do.

Savington 05-10-2009 06:34 PM

For a bunch of safety reasons that I won't even explain to you because you'll just ignore them anyway, you shouldn't do this.

1990miata1.6 05-10-2009 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 406983)
why not just run your tank dry on the way to the track and fill it up with your "race fuel" when you get there?

This is what all/most boosted track miatas do, in fact this is what most track cars do.

i dont want to have to run my tank dry and you never truly can run it dry


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 406989)
For a bunch of safety reasons that I won't even explain to you because you'll just ignore them anyway, you shouldn't do this.

i would like to hear them. i get if some one crashes into me it will go boom :giggle:

thesnowboarder 05-10-2009 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 406996)
i dont want to have to run my tank dry and you never truly can run it dry



Clearly, you no nothing. Spec miata drivers do it before races so they know exactly how much fuel is in their tanks.

Savington 05-10-2009 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 406996)

i would like to hear them. i get if some one crashes into me it will go boom :giggle:


Ask me with perfect grammar and I'll tell you.

240_to_miata 05-10-2009 07:42 PM

how are you going to control the return line?

Alta_Racer 05-10-2009 11:44 PM

How much extra power do you think "race gas" will make you?

I have a number in my head.

hustler 05-11-2009 12:06 AM

water injection > purple

magnamx-5 05-11-2009 12:18 AM

lol yeah man some Water meth injection is the same price with alot better results and you can drive it everywhere witht the track power instead of being a pussy with what you have.

mrtonyg 05-11-2009 12:25 AM

You are not going to get more power just by running "race gas" or "av gas".

You need to tune high octane fuel to get power. Unless you are going to switch between two different tunes you are asking for trouble.

1990miata1.6 05-11-2009 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by mrtonyg (Post 407085)
You are not going to get more power just by running "race gas" or "av gas".

You need to tune high octane fuel to get power. Unless you are going to switch between two different tunes you are asking for trouble.

i am going to have 2 maps on pump gas map one race gas map.


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 407084)
lol yeah man some Water meth injection is the same price with alot better results and you can drive it everywhere witht the track power instead of being a pussy with what you have.

water and meth is a great thing besides the parts were it corrosive and kills you icv.


Originally Posted by Alta_Racer (Post 407075)
How much extra power do you think "race gas" will make you?

I have a number in my head.

im not sure how much i will make yet i have to get my new stuff on and tune it. im hoping to make an extra 30whp with race gas at the shop we have made we have evos that make 400 on pump and 435-450 on race. so with every thing tune i should see an extra 30whp.


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 407007)
how are you going to control the return line?

the 99 miatas are returnless fuel system


Originally Posted by thesnowboarder (Post 407001)
Clearly, you no nothing. Spec miata drivers do it before races so they know exactly how much fuel is in their tanks.

i dont do any form of autocross only drag racing seeing how its only 20 buck for the day

l_bader 05-11-2009 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 407133)
i dont do any form of autocross only drag racing seeing how its only 20 buck for the day

This is your response in regard to Spec Miata? You really need to do your homework...

1990miata1.6 05-11-2009 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by l_bader (Post 407153)
This is your response in regard to Spec Miata? You really need to do your homework...

i have never seen or heard of any spec miata drag racing nor have i even payed any attention to spec miata. all i know about them is there mostly used for autocross. my car is a dd that gets used at the drag track once a month and i am not going to go out of my way to run my tank empty and have to waste the gas doing so. it is a lot easier to have a trunk mounted tank that i fill with race gas flip 2 switches one for the pump and one for my ecu to change the maps and boom done miata on race fuel. must be nice to run your tanks empty just to run race gas and have the money to fill them back up:nuts: gas in CT is 3.00 for a gallon of 93 and it will be getting up to 4.00+ for a gallon this summer. so fuck wasting the gas

gospeed81 05-11-2009 09:59 AM

Spec Miata : The Official Spec Miata Community

That took exactly 7 seconds. Either you're too lazy to type "spec miata" into a search window, or you don't know what the fuck autocrossing is.

1990miata1.6 05-11-2009 10:04 AM

im sorry but i dont give 2 sh!ts for spec miata.


the Spec Miata (SM) class is intended to provide the opportunity to compete in low cost, production-based cars with limited modifications theres one of them

gospeed81 05-11-2009 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by 1990miata1.6 (Post 407133)
i dont do any form of autocross only drag racing seeing how its only 20 buck for the day

The point is they are track cars numbnuts.


Autocross=cones

Road course wheel to wheel racing is what spec miata is.



ON TOPIC:

I don't know why you're worrying about a setup that will involve perfecting TWO tunes when you couldn't even get one tune right.

Also, how are you going to know when to switch back and forth between the two if you can't tell when the fuel line is full/empty of race gas during switches.


I see more bent rods in your future young Skywalker.

sixshooter 05-11-2009 10:58 AM

Damn, fellas! Ease up on the boy.

You will know when the race gas reaches the injectors by the smell of the exhaust gasses, I suppose.
Good for you for taking the initiative and experimenting with something new.

I would personally use the water/meth mix so that the benefits of the extra power/safety would always be available. Meth is safe unless you freebase it.


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